Bluemist wrote: ↑June 13th, 2024, 8:22 am
Sculptor1 wrote: ↑June 13th, 2024, 6:51 amI find your attitude abhorrent. Not sure why you persist.
But that goes for you as well in both arguments. Indiscriminate morally absolute judgment against animal or human research that you seem to hold does not stand a chance against the good in fact that is gained by humanity from the animal research that leads to medical and pharmaceutical advances otherwise unobtainable. Because of this, laws restrict human researches but not animal researches. Abhorrent but necessary. At best we can hide our heads in the sand and ignore the cruelty to laboratory animals, but we have to live with it in shame.
I am making an observation that a conditioned reflex is a poor interpretation of what is going on. Although there is a moral aspect to this, it in no way reflects on the practical aspects of the failed experiment.
So did you have ANY evidence that this example has led to ANY "medical and pharmaceutical advances otherwise unobtainable.", are are you, as I think, just blowing hot air.
Please give examples!
Elsewhere, your being Jewish does not excuse your equally despicable attitude toward Israel and by extension against all Jews everywhere including yourself. Unfortunately, when you march in a pro-Palestinian protest you are by default also marching in favor of the most heinous type of terrorism of Hamas and others, that in cold blood will continue to commit the atrocities that was carried out in Israel.
Isreal is killing thousands of children. How do you justify that?
Consider this, if that happened in your own country how would your nation respond differently? Would you still voice the moral absolute at your own peril, or is that only reserved for Jews?
What is the "IT" to which you refer?
I suppose you think that the horrors of Palestine/Isreal started Oct 7th?
LOL
Now "if it happened in my country"...
It imposition of the Isreali state upon the Palestinian one is completely unprecedented.
However Northern Ireland is a partition situation, and I can tell you that at no time since 1921 did the UK attack Ireland for the actions of the IRA in the North.
That is as close to answering your question.
The UK
did not:
cut off food
destory the education system by the systematic destruction of schools and universities
Raise hospitals to the ground.
kill doctors and nurse.
run people armed with bags of flour over with tanks.
target children with snipers.
block humanitarian aid.
nor do they teach jewish white superiority to the children in schools.
Here, in the US we conducted an extended bloody war against terrorism that is always simmering. And I don't see many supporting those terrorists.
THe USA is funding terrorism all over the world.
WHat planet do you live on?
THere has been a steady war agains democracy all over the world on you tax dollar.