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[Sushan]

This topic is related to the philosophical book of the month of May, Fear Not Dream Big & Execute byJeff Meyer


"God has created you to dream. He urges you to crave your own BIG dream. You were not created to merely carry out someone else’s. You were created to live a life of service, yes, but service can be weighty if we don’t unearth our own, unique, God-given vision." (Foreword)

The author wants his readers to break free from others' dreams and pursue their own dreams. And that have been the main purpose of writing this book, and as per the author that is the intent of God as well.

“The place where God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world’s deep hunger coincide.”

But on the other hand, as per the author, our dreams are not our own dreams but which are given to us by God.

Has the author contradicted his own concept?

At the same time, can't we make our parents' or our closest ones dreams as ours and pursue them? Will it lead us to failure always?

[Nick_A]

This topic is related to the philosophical book of the month of May, Fear Not Dream Big & Execute byJeff Meyer


"God has created you to dream. He urges you to crave your own BIG dream. You were not created to merely carry out someone else’s. You were created to live a life of service, yes, but service can be weighty if we don’t unearth our own, unique, God-given vision." (Foreword)

The author wants his readers to break free from others' dreams and pursue their own dreams. And that have been the main purpose of writing this book, and as per the author that is the intent of God as well.

“The place where God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world’s deep hunger coincide.”

But on the other hand, as per the author, our dreams are not our own dreams but which are given to us by God.

Has the author contradicted his own concept?

At the same time, can't we make our parents' or our closest ones dreams as ours and pursue them? Will it lead us to failure always?

The author has his deities confused. It is the Devil who is in charge of dreams and fantasies. He is quite skilled at it when given the chance.

[Sushan]

This topic is related to the philosophical book of the month of May, Fear Not Dream Big & Execute byJeff Meyer


"God has created you to dream. He urges you to crave your own BIG dream. You were not created to merely carry out someone else’s. You were created to live a life of service, yes, but service can be weighty if we don’t unearth our own, unique, God-given vision." (Foreword)

The author wants his readers to break free from others' dreams and pursue their own dreams. And that have been the main purpose of writing this book, and as per the author that is the intent of God as well.

“The place where God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world’s deep hunger coincide.”

But on the other hand, as per the author, our dreams are not our own dreams but which are given to us by God.

Has the author contradicted his own concept?

At the same time, can't we make our parents' or our closest ones dreams as ours and pursue them? Will it lead us to failure always?

The author has his deities confused. It is the Devil who is in charge of dreams and fantasies. He is quite skilled at it when given the chance.

I really did not get you. Were you referring to the dreams that we see whie we are asleep. I am afraid that we are not discussing about such dreams, but the dreams that people see about their success.

Are thosr dreams too come from the devil? If so, why?

[Nick_A]

This topic is related to the philosophical book of the month of May, Fear Not Dream Big & Execute byJeff Meyer


"God has created you to dream. He urges you to crave your own BIG dream. You were not created to merely carry out someone else’s. You were created to live a life of service, yes, but service can be weighty if we don’t unearth our own, unique, God-given vision." (Foreword)

The author wants his readers to break free from others' dreams and pursue their own dreams. And that have been the main purpose of writing this book, and as per the author that is the intent of God as well.

“The place where God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world’s deep hunger coincide.”

But on the other hand, as per the author, our dreams are not our own dreams but which are given to us by God.

Has the author contradicted his own concept?

At the same time, can't we make our parents' or our closest ones dreams as ours and pursue them? Will it lead us to failure always?

The author has his deities confused. It is the Devil who is in charge of dreams and fantasies. He is quite skilled at it when given the chance.

I really did not get you. Were you referring to the dreams that we see whie we are asleep. I am afraid that we are not discussing about such dreams, but the dreams that people see about their success.

Are thosr dreams too come from the devil? If so, why?

Everyone needs an aim. The aim the Christ for Man is awakening to the truth of the human condition and its potentials. The aim for the Devil is to tempt man into dreaming of earthly pleasures and goals which provide them. The battle is over the primary influence for human beings. When the goal of pleasure is greater than the need for truth than the devil wins and humans lose.

Matthew 16:26

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

The Christ is concerned with the need and aim for our soul to be nourished by truth while the Devil is concerned with furthering the aims of our acquired personality such as our excessive need for money, fame, and sex.

The Christ says it like it is while the Devil is a master at organization which the modern world greatly respects. Which path dominates? Krishnamurti explains:

“You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street, when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket. The friend said to the devil, “What did that man pick up?” “He picked up a piece of Truth,” said the devil. “That is a very bad business for you, then,” said his friend. “Oh, not at all,” the devil replied, “I am going to help him organize it."

Organization within secular society defeats truth. Would you know why?

[Sushan]

This topic is related to the philosophical book of the month of May, Fear Not Dream Big & Execute byJeff Meyer


"God has created you to dream. He urges you to crave your own BIG dream. You were not created to merely carry out someone else’s. You were created to live a life of service, yes, but service can be weighty if we don’t unearth our own, unique, God-given vision." (Foreword)

The author wants his readers to break free from others' dreams and pursue their own dreams. And that have been the main purpose of writing this book, and as per the author that is the intent of God as well.

“The place where God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world’s deep hunger coincide.”

But on the other hand, as per the author, our dreams are not our own dreams but which are given to us by God.

Has the author contradicted his own concept?

At the same time, can't we make our parents' or our closest ones dreams as ours and pursue them? Will it lead us to failure always?

The author has his deities confused. It is the Devil who is in charge of dreams and fantasies. He is quite skilled at it when given the chance.

I really did not get you. Were you referring to the dreams that we see whie we are asleep. I am afraid that we are not discussing about such dreams, but the dreams that people see about their success.

Are thosr dreams too come from the devil? If so, why?

Everyone needs an aim. The aim the Christ for Man is awakening to the truth of the human condition and its potentials. The aim for the Devil is to tempt man into dreaming of earthly pleasures and goals which provide them. The battle is over the primary influence for human beings. When the goal of pleasure is greater than the need for truth than the devil wins and humans lose.

Matthew 16:26

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

The Christ is concerned with the need and aim for our soul to be nourished by truth while the Devil is concerned with furthering the aims of our acquired personality such as our excessive need for money, fame, and sex.

The Christ says it like it is while the Devil is a master at organization which the modern world greatly respects. Which path dominates? Krishnamurti explains:

“You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street, when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket. The friend said to the devil, “What did that man pick up?” “He picked up a piece of Truth,” said the devil. “That is a very bad business for you, then,” said his friend. “Oh, not at all,” the devil replied, “I am going to help him organize it."

Organization within secular society defeats truth. Would you know why?

I believe that I am not well aware about such biblical teachings. We cannot mix up worldly matters with spiritual matters. You are correct when you say that if people are blinded with dreams for mundane joys, the truth and the spiritual development will be far for them. Yet, unless you are planning to get away from your loved ones and go into a jungle and meditate, you have to be successful in this mundane world. So for that you need dreams, plans and organizing. I don't think that Jesus has restricted such endeavors. If you choose a correct path for your mundane success, then you won't be dragged too far away from your spiritual development.

[Nick_A]

Spiritual development sounds too New agey. It doesn't require going into the woods someplace but requires making the efforts to "Know Thyself" or to have the impartial experience of ourselves without judgement and preconception. Our personality doesn't want this knowledge but since the heart does, it can be done.

Is a person willing to sacrifice the dominant goal of pleasure our personality is attracted to for the need for truth our hearts are attracted to, first learn how to impartially see. Decide and proceed on that basis. What do you want?

[Terrapin Station]

This topic is related to the philosophical book of the month of May, Fear Not Dream Big & Execute byJeff Meyer


"God has created you to dream. He urges you to crave your own BIG dream. You were not created to merely carry out someone else’s. You were created to live a life of service, yes, but service can be weighty if we don’t unearth our own, unique, God-given vision." (Foreword)

The author wants his readers to break free from others' dreams and pursue their own dreams. And that have been the main purpose of writing this book, and as per the author that is the intent of God as well.

“The place where God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world’s deep hunger coincide.”

But on the other hand, as per the author, our dreams are not our own dreams but which are given to us by God.

Has the author contradicted his own concept?

At the same time, can't we make our parents' or our closest ones dreams as ours and pursue them? Will it lead us to failure always?

I'm not familiar with the book. Is it a religious book overall? If not, it seems weird to me that the tone of the foreword would be so God-oriented. That's going to turn non-religious readers off.

[Terrapin Station]

To readers who aren't religious, stuff like that tends to come across like someone is trying to recruit you for a cult. So I can only imagine that it's a religious-oriented book overall, or otherwise that it's self-published. No editor for a "real" publisher is going to let stuff like that slide if it's a book intended for a general rather than a religious-oriented audience.

[Sushan]

This topic is related to the philosophical book of the month of May, Fear Not Dream Big & Execute byJeff Meyer


"God has created you to dream. He urges you to crave your own BIG dream. You were not created to merely carry out someone else’s. You were created to live a life of service, yes, but service can be weighty if we don’t unearth our own, unique, God-given vision." (Foreword)

The author wants his readers to break free from others' dreams and pursue their own dreams. And that have been the main purpose of writing this book, and as per the author that is the intent of God as well.

“The place where God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world’s deep hunger coincide.”

But on the other hand, as per the author, our dreams are not our own dreams but which are given to us by God.

Has the author contradicted his own concept?

At the same time, can't we make our parents' or our closest ones dreams as ours and pursue them? Will it lead us to failure always?

I'm not familiar with the book. Is it a religious book overall? If not, it seems weird to me that the tone of the foreword would be so God-oriented. That's going to turn non-religious readers off.

The book was not supposed to be a religious book, and many would not expect it to be so after seeing the title. But unfortunately the author has made it more biased towards preaching rather than leadership training. So it averts the non-religious readers as well as those who are seeking for a book about leadership but not a book of preaching. Thank you for your nice observation and valuable comment.

[Sushan]

To readers who aren't religious, stuff like that tends to come across like someone is trying to recruit you for a cult. So I can only imagine that it's a religious-oriented book overall, or otherwise that it's self-published. No editor for a "real" publisher is going to let stuff like that slide if it's a book intended for a general rather than a religious-oriented audience.

I double checked after reading your comment, and yes, the book was self-published. Now I see the need for the book to be self-published as none of the editors will let this one through as a book about leadership with its content being more towards preaching.

I think, though the author might not have intended to, that this book feels more like a recruiting mechanism for a cult rather than a book which will pave way for new leaders.

[Sushan]

Spiritual development sounds too New agey. It doesn't require going into the woods someplace but requires making the efforts to "Know Thyself" or to have the impartial experience of ourselves without judgement and preconception. Our personality doesn't want this knowledge but since the heart does, it can be done.

Is a person willing to sacrifice the dominant goal of pleasure our personality is attracted to for the need for truth our hearts are attracted to, first learn how to impartially see. Decide and proceed on that basis. What do you want?

I don't think that neither of us have to be impartial because we are having a discussion (more or less an argument) regarding a point that both of us are having different view points.

So if spiritual development is "new agey", and what God or Jesus wanted was to "know thyself", what is wrong in knowing your abilities and making them to fulfill your plans and dreams? Will it be more productive to remain idle without dreams or plans just because it will hinder your ultimate spiritual development, or something like that?