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Discuss the November 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes.

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Martina Sette wrote: August 20th, 2024, 11:07 am Among the statements I disagree with is definitely the one on page 156, which says, "If you were fully in their shoes, you would do exactly as they do, so there is nothing to forgive."
Hi, Martina Sette,

Let's break the sentence down into shorter claims, to see where the alleged disagreement is.

Do you agree with this shorter version of the sentence:

"If you were fully in their shoes, you would do exactly as they do."

?



With love,
Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
a.k.a. Scott
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#466969
Jensyn Runkle wrote: August 20th, 2024, 2:34 pm

So instead, I will write of the part I disagree with most. The existence of evil.
This is a fact, not an opinion.
Page 37, Chapter "We Can't help starving children because we cannot help ourselves."
Referencing the quote from Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
Those are three different parts of the book.

Please quote verbatim very first sentence with which you disagree.

In other words, please do not quote the sentence you disagree with "most", but rather the sentence with which you disagree that appears closest to the beginning of the book.
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#466971
Eckhart Aurelius Hughes wrote: June 10th, 2024, 5:08 pm if you can provide me the quote from the Christian Bible, preferably something said by Jesus himself, that supports the claim [...] that God did something he shouldn't have when he chose to create Satan knowing Satan would do exactly what Satan would do based on the way God created him
Mounce574 wrote: August 21st, 2024, 6:55 am Matthew 13:38 would be Jesus claiming Satan is evil.
Hi, Mounce574,

Thank you for providing that quote. It's definitely helpful to me.

However, while definitely relevant, it doesn't seem to be exactly what I asked for.

But it's hard to say since the Bible wasn't written in English and thus all English translations are inherently partly wrong and distorted from what it actually says in the original language.

Thus, can you provide the actual quote using the English translation you prefer most?


Thank you,
Scott
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#467012
On page 127, under the heading "There Is No Problem With Evil." I must say that I didn't seem to agree with this statement. in my little experience in life, the major problem I know is evil and its act. I can imagine how this world will be without evil. i must say that I totally disagree with this big statement and also I will demand more clarification to it.
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#467184
"Humans don't come into the world; they come out of it, like an apple comes out of an apple tree, like a rose comes out of a rose garden."

Is not like disagreement, I need further explanation on the quote above.
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#467328
Amy Jackson wrote: August 7th, 2024, 5:49 am "There is no problem of evil because there is no evil."
I can't logically explain the existence of evil, but I know it exists because I've encountered it. And the only way I can describe it is... Evil. It's not physical, it's spiritual. And it fights against the good of humanity and the world at large.
Hi, Amy Jackson,

I strongly encourage you to reply to each of the ten questions in the following topic:

Ten Questions for People Who Believe Should-Not-Have-Ness [a.k.a. evil] Exists


With love,
Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
a.k.a. Scott
Favorite Philosopher: Eckhart Aurelius Hughes Signature Addition: View official OnlineBookClub.org review of In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All

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#467330
John Judah wrote: August 24th, 2024, 10:48 am On page 127, under the heading "There Is No Problem With Evil." I must say that I didn't seem to agree with this statement. in my little experience in life, the major problem I know is evil and its act. I can imagine how this world will be without evil. i must say that I totally disagree with this big statement and also I will demand more clarification to it.
Hi, John Judah,

If you don't agree with every single sentence from the book, please post a verbatim quote of the very first sentence in the book with which you disagree, meaning the sentence closest to the beginning of the book.


With love,
Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
a.k.a. Scott
Favorite Philosopher: Eckhart Aurelius Hughes Signature Addition: View official OnlineBookClub.org review of In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All

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#467332
Mohammed wrote: August 27th, 2024, 4:28 am "Humans don't come into the world; they come out of it, like an apple comes out of an apple tree, like a rose comes out of a rose garden."

Is not like disagreement, I need further explanation on the quote above.
Hi, Mohammed,

That question was already asked and answered earlier in the Q&A:

In your book, you wrote (while paraphrasing Alan Watts), "Humans do not come into the world; they come out of it, like an apple comes out of an apple tree." Can you explain what that means in more detail?


Moving forward, please do make sure to read all the previous Q&As before asking a new question to make sure the question hasn't already been asked and answered.


With love,
Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
a.k.a. Scott
Favorite Philosopher: Eckhart Aurelius Hughes Signature Addition: View official OnlineBookClub.org review of In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All

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#467531
The first sentence I disagree with is on page 33 - "We Can't Help Starving Children Because We Can't Help Ourselves"
In my opinion, we cannot state this to be true because many of us do find some enlightened paths when we learn how to help ourselves and we also help others. But this statement and the examples are more on an individual level. If the wording could somehow reflect that we (all of humanity or a majority) cannot work together towards helping ourselves as a single collective unit and that's why we are not able to eradicate such preventable sufferings in the world, then I would have agreed to that. But if we look at smaller groups or individuals, there are individuals and even communities that take care of each other.
#467592
Anthony Ambrose wrote: September 6th, 2024, 8:02 am The passage argues that holding onto unforgiveness (resentment) creates a false sense of value in the act of withholding forgiveness, especially for things we personally deem most unforgivable. It suggests that by viewing unforgiveness as harmful rather than valuable, we can let go of it entirely, freeing ourselves from the mental struggle of categorizing things as forgivable or unforgivable. The text challenges the dualistic mindset that divides people or actions into good and bad categories, urging us instead to see everything as inherently what it is, without comparison. Forgiveness is not a gift to the offender but a release from self-inflicted harm. By removing resentment and judgment, we gain inner peace. The passage questions whether forgiveness would be easier if we lived in isolation, free from the judgments tied to human interactions, suggesting that in such a state, we might naturally discard resentment altogether.
Hi, Anthony Ambrose,

That is not a quote from my book.

If you don't agree with every single sentence from the book, please post a verbatim quote of the very first sentence in the book with which you disagree, meaning the sentence closest to the beginning of the book.


With love,
Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
a.k.a. Scott
Favorite Philosopher: Eckhart Aurelius Hughes Signature Addition: View official OnlineBookClub.org review of In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All

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#467686
This book has a character of its own. It is thought-provoking, insightful and the reader feels an immediate connection with the author. He constructs his insights in a form that links interpretation of facts on a continuum of possibilities intrinsically connected in meaning and power to change. With great admiration, I honour Mr Hughes, for his ability to dissect life and get known as one of the great thinkers of our time, through his masterpiece— this book.

The goal of philosophy is to ask questions and find truth. There are different perspectives that make-up a whole which is oneness, without breaking the integrity and vision of any person.

Santosuosso
#468081
The book, a testament to the author's wisdom, resonated with me on many levels. His extensive knowledge and life experiences are evident in his writing. However, when I was asked if I agreed with everything in the book, I had to answer 'NO'. After all, it's impossible to align with every viewpoint, even from our favorite authors. This passage came to mind:

“But the perception of literal evil is a manifestation of discontent, meaning a lack of inner peace, a lack of reality acceptance, a lack of unconditional love.”

I do not believe that the perception of evil always manifests discontent and lack of inner peace. Many horrible things are happening in the world, and this can include pedophilia, sex trafficking, innocent children being killed in wars, and environmental disasters. Perceiving this type of evil is more linked to a heightened critical sense than a lack of inner peace. However, I acknowledge that this is a complex and nuanced topic, and I'm interested to hear your thoughts. What do you think?
#468106
Do you agree with everything in the book, "In It Together"? If not, what is the first sentence with which you disagree?

I took my time reading this book because I really enjoyed it. I went into the reading of this book with an open mind and I've learned a lot. I'm definitely going to read it again. Surprisingly, I did agree with everything that was said in this book. With that in mind, it may be more beneficial for me to zero in on a point that I really appreciated.

The section of the book that discussed suicidal self-harmers was a good mental jogger. The points brought out made sense. There are many deaths that could be considered suicide based on the cause of them if it were documented as such. An obese person dying as a result of their poor eating habits, a drunk driver dying in a crash, a smoker dying from lung cancer, or drug addicts dying from overdosing. These are all results of of people killing themselves, which is what suicide is. It’s a hard pill to swallow, but the truth is never easy to accept in general because it often hurts.

Despite this being introduced pretty early in the book, it still made a pretty prolific impression on me. You often don’t really think about how the smallest of habits can show how much value you not only place on your own life, but on general. It was a humbling point to say the least. It moved me to analyze my own self to uncover any treats or habits that are devaluing my life. I want to make sure I’m loving my life by treating my body with respect and prolonging it by keeping up with my health.

Though there are many parts from this book that I really liked and I learned from, I just thought I'd bring out one so that my post isn't too lengthy! I'm going to share this book with my family because I do believe that they will enjoy reading this book just as much as I have.
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