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Discuss the November 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes.

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#462507
Diving into spiritual freedom is really about that personal quest we’re all on, you know? It’s about finding out who we are, getting that inner calm, and feeling connected to the big picture. Sometimes it’s a clear moment that clicks, or maybe it’s just being present, or even those big life-changers that make us see everything differently. Trying to put that kind of freedom into words is tough—it’s bigger than words, and it leaves you just… wow, you know?
#462510
You’re right on the money. When we’re pushed to match up to what everyone else thinks is ‘normal,’ it’s like walking in shoes that just don’t fit—uncomfortable and downright stressful. And let’s not even start on the finger-wagging and tsk-tsking. That kind of judgment can sour friendships faster than milk in the sun. But here’s the kicker: when we get to know ourselves and appreciate all the different views out there, it’s like a breath of fresh air. It eases the tension and makes room for more high-fives and less side-eyes.
#464072
When people rigidly adhere to these notions, they impose unrealistic expectations on themselves and others, breeding dissatisfaction and conflict. This mindset traps individuals in a cycle of guilt and resentment, as they constantly judge actions and choices against an inflexible standard. Instead of promoting growth and understanding, it stifles progress and damages relationships. By recognizing and challenging these harmful thought patterns, we can cultivate a more compassionate and realistic perspective, allowing for personal freedom and healthier, more supportive interactions.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=506031
#465322
I agree with your perspective. Viewing 'shoulds' and 'oughts' as superstitions frees us from resentful judgmentalism. By accepting reality as it is and focusing on our choices, we gain true freedom of spirit and self-discipline. Instead of being bound by imaginary constraints, we can fully embrace the present and make decisions without regret or resentment.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=521103
#465388
It is appropriate to label some objects as such and improper ones as necessary. Our lives as humans would be guided by this. Think of a society in which everyone is free to act however they see fit—there are no laws or restrictions. It would be impossible to live in that world.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=518471
#465438
I love your analysis about the concepts of evil, should, or ought. I could realise that if we accept a fellow's side of character which is not sitting well us, we would be able to relate with them in understanding and empathy. This deep spiritual wisdom.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=517979
#465669
This is a compelling argument for a liberated perspective. By detaching from the constraints of 'should' and 'ought', you propose a path to a more peaceful and fulfilling existence. Your emphasis on choice and acceptance is refreshing. It's an invitation to explore a mindset where judgment is replaced by understanding and where freedom is truly embraced.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=527977
#466351
Your perspective on morality as a construct is thought-provoking. It's clear you've given this considerable thought. I appreciate your emphasis on personal freedom and the importance of letting go of judgment. However, I'm curious about how you reconcile your view with the potential impact of individual actions on others. If there are no inherent 'shoulds' or 'oughts', how do we navigate societal interactions and responsibilities?
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=528872
#466352
I see your point about the subjective nature of moral terms. It's interesting how you equate 'should' and 'ought' with superstition and suggest that a belief in them hinders personal freedom. Your emphasis on choice and acceptance as a path to inner peace is compelling. I wonder, though, if there's a potential for a middle ground between absolute moral relativism and rigid moral absolutism. Could there be shared human values or principles that guide behavior without resorting to 'should' or 'ought'?
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=528872
#466384
Constantly relying on "shoulds" and "oughts" creates unnecessary pressure and leads to guilt when expectations aren't met. Moralizing judgmentalism adds to this by imposing personal standards on others, fostering resentment and disconnection. Shifting to empathy and understanding can help release these rigid mindsets, leading to greater peace and healthier relationships.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=538679
#466887
Achieving spiritual liberation often involves a journey of self-discovery, finding inner peace, and feeling connected to something bigger than oneself. This journey may include moments of revelation, mindfulness practices, or life-changing experiences that shift one's perspective on life and its meaning. The experience of spiritual freedom is often so profound that it's hard to put into words, leaving people in awe and wonder.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=507311
#467242
I'd feel free of the confines of moral judgment and the weight of "shoulds" and "oughts." Accepting the concept that everything is exactly as it should be would free me of hatred and the pointless urge to change the unchangeable. This approach would allow me to concentrate on the present moment and my choices without being burdened by guilt, regret, or worry for the future.

To address the question, rejecting the concept of "shoulds" and "oughts" might lead to a life of greater serenity and freedom, where decisions are made free of moralizing judgment and with complete acceptance of reality as it is.
#467348
These topics about the dangerous superstition of 'shoulds' and 'oughts' and other resentful, moralizing judgementalism, remind me of my freedom to make individual choices that I only believe are good for me. Am no longer obliged to force myself to making choices based on other people's opinion which I don't understand the procedure used to arrive to such an opinion.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=493764
#467941
I do not believe in the word should because it seems like a draw back on action. to me, it is a form of procrastination and irresponsibility. it allows the user not to do things that they ought to do at the first instance.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=541190
#467942
Anthony Edwards 4 wrote: May 21st, 2024, 2:25 am You’re right on the money. When we’re pushed to match up to what everyone else thinks is ‘normal,’ it’s like walking in shoes that just don’t fit—uncomfortable and downright stressful. And let’s not even start on the finger-wagging and tsk-tsking. That kind of judgment can sour friendships faster than milk in the sun. But here’s the kicker: when we get to know ourselves and appreciate all the different views out there, it’s like a breath of fresh air. It eases the tension and makes room for more high-fives and less side-eyes.
I think the best way to live life is to live it without the expectations of other. When we allow what others think to pressure us. we give in to unhealthy competition that will ruin us in the latter.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=541190

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