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Q&A: "How is it that you said with certainty that Jesus was a rebel?"

Posted: January 25th, 2025, 10:40 am
by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
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iamstephanieejike wrote: January 16th, 2025, 3:47 pm I'm making this post with regards to your response to the question a mentee asked you about the Bible being a basis for Christianity and your take on the Bible.

I agree with what you said about Jesus not being a Christian. True, because how can He be anything else other than who and what He is?

However, I hope you won't hold it against me if I say I don't agree with most of your response on this? ☺️

If I were to ask you who Pluto, Socrates, Hippocrates or even Aurielus were, I'm sure you'll tell me who they were to a reasonable degree considering they had roots also in Philosophy too.

However, If I'd rather ask what their favorite food, their favorite thing to do or greatest desire were, would you say you know well enough about them in that respect to give me those details?

So, let me ask you this: generally speaking, how much of someone do one need to know to knowledgeably, authoritatively and rightly speak about them to others? What would inform such knowledge?

Finally, how is it that you said with certainty that Jesus was a rebel?

If someone refute certain opinions, actions and practices, would that make them a rebel?

Hi, iamstephanieejike,

Thank you for your question! :)

Technically, I don't recall saying anything about "being certain".

So, my first piece of advice to you is this: If someone says something is true but doesn't explicitly say they are certain (a.k.a. 100% sure) and/or that they have "proof" (versus merely having evidence and/or an argument but not absolute proof), then first ask, "Are you certain?" before assuming they are claiming to be certain.

I'm not certain Jesus ever actually existed. If he did exist, he almost certainly wasn't named Jesus. The man whom you refer to as "Jesus", if he existed, was actually named and called Yeshua. The name Jesus wasn't invented until long after his death.

It's also worth noting that Christianity wasn't invented until long after Jesus's death. He was born a Jew and lived his whole life as a Jew. The last supper was a Jewish Passover dinner, which is also why Christian Easter occurs around the same time as the Jewish Passover.

I based my earlier comments about Jesus being a rebel on the stories in the Christian Bible. Keep in mind that the stories have some inconsistencies, namely since the Bible contains four different versions of the story that contradict each other in relatively minor ways.

Nonetheless, overall, all four different versions are consistent with this fact: Jesus was a law-breaking criminal who broke the man-made law and was publicly executed by the government for it after being put on trial and found guilty. Assuming those things are all true, then from that alone, I would say confidently that Jesus was a rebel (a.k.a. a subversive).

In contrast, if he had instead been just another sheep, meaning just another obedient law-abiding authority-respecting little conformist, just another one-of-a-million kind of person, then we wouldn't be talking about him now.

A clever way to find additional examples of Jesus's subversiveness is to search the New Testament for the phrase "You have heard that...", such as in the following verse:

"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But I say to you…'" (Mt 5:38)

Of course, my favorite example is when Jesus went to the temple (a.k.a. church) and flipped over tables.

By the time he was executed, all the religious powers hated him because he was so rebellious and new age and law-breaking. New age for the time, that is.



With love,
Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
a.k.a. Scott



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Re: Q&A: "How is it that you said with certainty that Jesus was a rebel?"

Posted: January 25th, 2025, 3:33 pm
by iamstephanieejike
Dear Scott,

Thank you for your response to my questions, although you seem to have focused only on one aspect - that of Jesus.

I am a Christian, and my belief of Jesus differs from what you wrote about him.
But it's okay to have a different opinion. Like you always emphasize, "you may even find what someone else say very offensive or disgusting, but you'll defend to death the person's right to say it." (Just paraphrasing)

I agree with one thing though; Jesus was not a conformists. If examined by the law of that time, he truly was a rebel!

And I apologise for the use of the word 'certainty.'
I stand rightly corrected. My inner grammatic personality just had to show up!

Thank you,

~ iamstephanieejike

Re: Q&A: "How is it that you said with certainty that Jesus was a rebel?"

Posted: January 25th, 2025, 5:07 pm
by Ajiferuke Ajibola
The Bible says, "God's ways are higher than our ways". That doesn't make God a rebel.

Let's just say that Jesus' way was higher.