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[amorphos_ii]

Astrology has nothing to do with the stars and planets

I think its what we seer, see in the stars and planets, its the human mind finding patterns in thing.

For example, I ‘believe’ in universal astrology, whereby you could go to any planet in the universe and draw up an astrology based in time, and cycles of things. For instance I took a reasonable accurate map of the world and divided it into 12 equal parts. I took it that Pangaea begins a cycle of continental drift ergo the map we use already represents that.

Then I though numbers have little meaning by themselves, so I added paralleled western and Chinese astrology i.e. by marrying them up starting at the year of the goat and Capricorn in the first segment at Alaska. I started at Capricorn and not Aries because universal astrology is about time and that’s where the year starts. Yes I know this only relates to planet earth, but the concept is to match astrological meaning with pattern prevalent in the universe in an ad-hock fashion. It would have to be that [ad-hock] because nothing in the universe marries up exactly or at all.

Interestingly it started making sense at China, which in the above schemata comes in the segment [of the 12] where libra marries with the dragon [year of] sign. Now, libra is all about balance [the scales] and China I think, invented the dragon or at least it is prevalent in their culture. So consider the yin/yang and the I-ching, they are very much about balance the same as the scales in Libra.

I also made a 12,000 year calendar [in excel] based in repeating cycles of 12 and using every prime number up to 19 [any more yield number patterns way to large even for that amount of time. Unfortunately I made this some years ago when viruses and adware etc were everywhere, so I lost the whole lot when I had to format my pc. Not that it matters because I can’t post links anyhow because ‘the man’ wants to be the only source of [dis]information.


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[Sy Borg]

Yes, the constellations are an illusion o perspective, caused by the fact that a star 10 light years away looks about the same to the naked eye as a larger start 50 light years away.

The value I see in astrology is in the archetypes. Not that the particular archetypes of various astrologies are "accurate", but that personality types are documented and analysed. Jung too explored archetypes. In any given group, we see various repeated dynamics - large/small, strong/weak, dominant/subsidiary, communal/distant, dense/diffuse. Now, we have analysis systems like Big Five or Meyer-Briggs.

[amorphos_ii]

Analytics indeed have their uses, however, at first I just done it all in numbers and that doesn’t give us a great deal of ontological meaning to work with. Set that against astrological archetypes, which are full of meanings and ones we have known for many thousands of years. Meaning as devised by very special peoples minds and have spiritual value, as a select few have come up with these ideas. One could break them down into archetypes but I think we loose something of the macroscopic [or some such thing] when we do that.

However, breaking things down is very useful when searching for universal meaning and archetypes, to wit I think the whole thing goes around in a circle. We end up with the macroscopic and not the breakdowns.

[Sy Borg]

Analytics indeed have their uses, however, at first I just done it all in numbers and that doesn’t give us a great deal of ontological meaning to work with. Set that against astrological archetypes, which are full of meanings and ones we have known for many thousands of years. Meaning as devised by very special peoples minds and have spiritual value, as a select few have come up with these ideas. One could break them down into archetypes but I think we loose something of the macroscopic [or some such thing] when we do that.

However, breaking things down is very useful when searching for universal meaning and archetypes, to wit I think the whole thing goes around in a circle. We end up with the macroscopic and not the breakdowns.

People have always found personality inventories useful in much the same way as they find it useful to classify other species. The systems enable a level of preparedness.

What do you mean by "We end up with the macroscopic and not the breakdowns"?

[amorphos_ii]

Well things like Tarot and astrology are images, which are on the holistic level of meaning . These things are very abstract in meaning, which in turn means we can break those meanings down into the particular facet of the meaning.