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What most people see as heaven is something that is (1) impossible but also (2) would be SO HORRIBLE if it did exist

Posted: September 28th, 2023, 1:59 pm
by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
This is a discussion forum topic related to the book, In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All.


Perhaps the most common example of hell (i.e. the opposite of inner peace) is falsely believing this endless journey has a destination and worshiping that destination.

That is the nature of false idols: what you are worshiping as better than reality doesn't exist.

In other words, hell is defining heaven as something that doesn't exist.

And when you really ask such a person what that imaginary impossible heaven would be like, it's generally something so much worse than what really exists. It's some boring place with only yin and no yang. There's no boxing and bleeding and pain. There's no lions chasing and killing antelopes, or starving to death when the selfish antelope gets away. It's a place without challenges, without educational losses and without worthy opponents. It would be so horrible! I am so glad their awful terrible boring made-up imaginary heaven doesn't exist and cannot exist.

Reality is right.

This world--the real world that actually exists, taken as a timeless eternal singular whole--is perfect and wonderful. This eternal present, in all its cyclical endless glory, is heaven. Eternal and perfect.

Say it with me now: "Reality is right."

In this vast infinite universe, not a single spec is out of place.

There is nowhere to go or get to, because you are already in heaven, and it's the only place you'll ever be. There is no better future because there is no "the future". This isn't the costly means to some end because there is no end. Hellishness is just an ungrateful state of mind some people happen to have for a bit while living in this wonderful perfect heaven. And that's good too; To each their own. 🙂



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Re: What most people see as heaven is something that is (1) impossible but also (2) would be SO HORRIBLE if it did exist

Posted: October 4th, 2023, 6:39 pm
by Marie Chalupova
I agree so much with this. I am always thinking when people say the world needs to be rid of all evil and sicknesses and death, how would such world look like. If we didn't know sickness we couldn't be grateful to be healthy. If there was no sadness there wouldn't be no happiness. We can eventually get to the point where the "evils" are very small compared to ours, but then they would become actually the big ones. It might be hard to accept but "ideal life" would not be actually ideal.

Re: What most people see as heaven is something that is (1) impossible but also (2) would be SO HORRIBLE if it did exist

Posted: November 29th, 2024, 1:41 pm
by Sushan
I see your point. We always look for, wish for, and plan for a better world, without pain, suffering, fighting, bleeding, cheating, and all the other imaginable horrors. But that wish is merely an illusion, and it is too far from reality, which means there is no such a thing at all. We need to see the reality, accept it wholeheartedly, and make it our heaven. Reality is right and it is right here.