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#440693
One possible resolution to the meaning of life and death

all this is probably being spoken figuratively…

start here for more detail in how I got to this:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18816&p=440691#p440691

‘mind’, connects to the body via a qualia version taken from [at least] physical informations.

Mind [to be ‘mind’, I bid] must have something akin to the function of memory, something like how a photographic plate ‘remembers’ its viewed visual representation. Let us say that e.g. mind connects to body via light qualia which connects to and is informed by photonic light and/or mental info e.g. in imaginations and dreams.
Let us imagine that it is essentially and primarily benign, akin to a blank photographic plate.
Mind is also ‘being’; being is a generator of experience, ‘you’ for example, are such an experience. Even if being itself is the only thing being experienced, that is what ‘being’ effectively is.

In other terms which may make sense of it:
from birth until at the point of death, the collection of informations are akin to a matrix. This in turn is like an image formed upon the photographic plate. Then due to the nature of being, it is ‘automatically’ expressed again. maybe more if e.g. universe is itself a perpetually evolving matrix.


This would I feel be a very simple process which will apply equally to all expressions and to all life; jellyfish, birds and humans the same [as in druidic philosophy].

Birth will be the connection by which a given matrix can be once again expressed. I would imagine that such connections would be ‘like attracts like’ or nearest fit. Ergo a human would be reborn as a human. e.g...
Humans are an evolved mechanism of expression – let us say, and being wants to be expressed and would naturally fall into place so. i.e. with a given expression matrix [someone similar as the foetus].

- as long as there are humans here of course!


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#440720
amorphos_ii wrote: April 26th, 2023, 9:14 pm One possible resolution to the meaning of life and death

all this is probably being spoken figuratively…

start here for more detail in how I got to this:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18816&p=440691#p440691

‘mind’, connects to the body via a qualia version taken from [at least] physical informations.

Mind [to be ‘mind’, I bid] must have something akin to the function of memory, something like how a photographic plate ‘remembers’ its viewed visual representation. Let us say that e.g. mind connects to body via light qualia which connects to and is informed by photonic light and/or mental info e.g. in imaginations and dreams.
Let us imagine that it is essentially and primarily benign, akin to a blank photographic plate.
Mind is also ‘being’; being is a generator of experience, ‘you’ for example, are such an experience. Even if being itself is the only thing being experienced, that is what ‘being’ effectively is.

In other terms which may make sense of it:
from birth until at the point of death, the collection of informations are akin to a matrix. This in turn is like an image formed upon the photographic plate. Then due to the nature of being, it is ‘automatically’ expressed again. maybe more if e.g. universe is itself a perpetually evolving matrix.


This would I feel be a very simple process which will apply equally to all expressions and to all life; jellyfish, birds and humans the same [as in druidic philosophy].

Birth will be the connection by which a given matrix can be once again expressed. I would imagine that such connections would be ‘like attracts like’ or nearest fit. Ergo a human would be reborn as a human. e.g...
Humans are an evolved mechanism of expression – let us say, and being wants to be expressed and would naturally fall into place so. i.e. with a given expression matrix [someone similar as the foetus].

- as long as there are humans here of course!


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Are you suggesting this as a foundation for the idea of reincarnation? Of course, the idea of a matrix is hard to verify, especially empirically. The closest to this on a theoretical basis is the idea of the meme or Rupert Sheldrake idea of morphic resonance. Sheldrake proposes morphic fields as an inherent memory in nature, which would involve information encoded. Is this similar to the way you would envision the notion of a matrix?
#441063
Not sure, but I don’t think my vision of things is a kind of physics, which inform the mind when it has physical body.

Yes its a kind of universal reincarnation where initially at least, all mind/life are treated the same.

I am suggesting that where mind is informed, that leaves an imprint upon it [the mind].

Then that, our minds and all minds are both individual and universal, ergo the universal side of mind will also store imprints – matrixes. This by virtue that both universal and individualised minds are mind the same.

the physics are ‘resonating’ with mind which is not physical.
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info as the mind sees it is a language of mind [qualia], which is not the same as but communicates with physical info.

Fundamentally I find it impossible to have an idea of no history, ergo reality will have some way to remember things!

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