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Equality is downsizing religions, as parents refuse to downsize their love for an LGBTQ+ or female child.

Premise ---
Parents want to love their LGBTQ+ kids without prejudice or negative discrimination.

I see Christianity and all religiosity shrinking. Churches closing, etc, while new Temples and Mosques of the wisdom seeking genre, --- as opposed to God seeker, --- are popping up to replace the God seeker religions.

This intelligent trend is to put humans and universality and inclusion over the Gods we have created, --- is nice to see as it returns us to a modernized version of the ancient and better days.

Demographics and stats are clear that the God religions of today will either have to adapt to a more secular view, --- and especially stop preaching --- that a parent has to downsize their love for a LGBTQ+ child.

Gnostic Christianity and Laïcité are the future, as we already disavow such vile evil.

We curse words like --- and the men are a degree above them [women] and he will rule over you [women], etc.

Regards
DL

I think you are wrong in almost everything you said.

Religion is BOOMING, even EXPLODING, in Africa and Asia. Why for the very reasons you refuse to admit. Here is an African woman making my point

Obianuju Ekeocha
Before even religion (which was something that came to Africa later, during the time of colonialization), first and foremost, the Africans value family and what makes family: a marriage; and what is within marriage: man, woman and children. So all of these things in practice form the core of African society. That is why we have less divorce, and that is why we have more openness to life — these things come first culturally.


But … a lot of Africans are also religious. Let’s just say that when religion came to us, it would have felt consistent with our cultural values. So [in] a lot of places you have very strong Christian populations, and in some other places, you have very strong Muslim populations. But what we hold in common is this value for family life. And if the family life is valued, then, yes, things like abortion are seen as abominations, as taboo, as horrific. … It always is an ugly thing in the minds of people that a mother could ever kill her own, be it before birth, be it after birth — it’s all the same thing: that is, horrific.

Baby Augustine wrote: ↑January 14th, 2023, 12:20 pm I think you are wrong in almost everything you said.

Religion is BOOMING, even EXPLODING, in Africa and Asia. Why for the very reasons you refuse to admit. Here is an African woman making my point

Obianuju Ekeocha
Before even religion (which was something that came to Africa later, during the time of colonialization), first and foremost, the Africans value family and what makes family: a marriage; and what is within marriage: man, woman and children. So all of these things in practice form the core of African society. That is why we have less divorce, and that is why we have more openness to life — these things come first culturally.


But … a lot of Africans are also religious. Let’s just say that when religion came to us, it would have felt consistent with our cultural values. So [in] a lot of places you have very strong Christian populations, and in some other places, you have very strong Muslim populations. But what we hold in common is this value for family life. And if the family life is valued, then, yes, things like abortion are seen as abominations, as taboo, as horrific. … It always is an ugly thing in the minds of people that a mother could ever kill her own, be it before birth, be it after birth — it’s all the same thing: that is, horrific.

All the stats I have are showing religions on the decline world wide.

Please show your that show otherwise.

If you are to use Africa as an example, look up the Kill the Gays bill that a U.S. church funded.

Also check on how Africans are still killing child witches for their church.

Regards
DL

Atheism is on the rise, true. But is making very modest inroads (7% of the world population). The vast majority of the world population is religious.

LuckyR wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2023, 4:29 am Atheism is on the rise, true. But is making very modest inroads (7% of the world population). The vast majority of the world population is religious.

How many are telling the truth?

Some countries show a 95% Christian affiliation, while only 5% ever go to church even once a year.

Take the liars out of the God religions and you have a really small population.

The religious could not survive if they were living the stupid beliefs they say they believe.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote: ↑January 24th, 2023, 11:12 am

LuckyR wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2023, 4:29 am Atheism is on the rise, true. But is making very modest inroads (7% of the world population). The vast majority of the world population is religious.

How many are telling the truth?

Some countries show a 95% Christian affiliation, while only 5% ever go to church even once a year.

Take the liars out of the God religions and you have a really small population.

The religious could not survive if they were living the stupid beliefs they say they believe.

Regards
DL

I don't disagree that much of theism is aspirational, not functional. However, in my experience even aspirational theists vote "theist" politically.

LuckyR wrote: ↑January 27th, 2023, 12:55 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑January 24th, 2023, 11:12 am

LuckyR wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2023, 4:29 am Atheism is on the rise, true. But is making very modest inroads (7% of the world population). The vast majority of the world population is religious.

How many are telling the truth?

Some countries show a 95% Christian affiliation, while only 5% ever go to church even once a year.

Take the liars out of the God religions and you have a really small population.

The religious could not survive if they were living the stupid beliefs they say they believe.

Regards
DL

I don't disagree that much of theism is aspirational, not functional. However, in my experience even aspirational theists vote "theist" politically.

Their are all kinds.

They will vote for whoever puts more cash in their hands or just follow tradition.

Poor thinkers.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote: ↑January 28th, 2023, 11:08 am

LuckyR wrote: ↑January 27th, 2023, 12:55 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑January 24th, 2023, 11:12 am

LuckyR wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2023, 4:29 am Atheism is on the rise, true. But is making very modest inroads (7% of the world population). The vast majority of the world population is religious.

How many are telling the truth?

Some countries show a 95% Christian affiliation, while only 5% ever go to church even once a year.

Take the liars out of the God religions and you have a really small population.

The religious could not survive if they were living the stupid beliefs they say they believe.

Regards
DL

I don't disagree that much of theism is aspirational, not functional. However, in my experience even aspirational theists vote "theist" politically.

Their are all kinds.

They will vote for whoever puts more cash in their hands or just follow tradition.

Poor thinkers.

Regards
DL

Everyone is equally likely to vote for their best financial interest. But I agree theists are more likely to vote traditionally.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑January 8th, 2023, 3:23 pm Equality is downsizing religions, as parents refuse to downsize their love for an LGBTQ+ or female child.

Premise ---
Parents want to love their LGBTQ+ kids without prejudice or negative discrimination.

I see Christianity and all religiosity shrinking. Churches closing, etc, while new Temples and Mosques of the wisdom seeking genre, --- as opposed to God seeker, --- are popping up to replace the God seeker religions.

This intelligent trend is to put humans and universality and inclusion over the Gods we have created, --- is nice to see as it returns us to a modernized version of the ancient and better days.

Demographics and stats are clear that the God religions of today will either have to adapt to a more secular view, --- and especially stop preaching --- that a parent has to downsize their love for a LGBTQ+ child.

Gnostic Christianity and Laïcité are the future, as we already disavow such vile evil.

We curse words like --- and the men are a degree above them [women] and he will rule over you [women], etc.

Regards
DL

Nobody is teaching parents that they have to downgrade their love for an acronym child that's retarded and I'm not sure why you're trying to push that as a real thing I will tell you this though all these mosques are springing up to replace Christianity are not focusing on wisdom as opposed to a deity as you make it sound they're equally as retarded as Christianity because they're an ideology and anytime somebody follows a group ideology they give up their own personal wisdom and intelligence in the name of an ideology that makes them stupid drones.

as well as your remark about the good old days I don't know what you're talking about because I'm pretty sure there are a lot of advancements that you would prefer to keep these days and I know there's a lot I would prefer to keep these days

for instance back in the day these mosques that you speak so highly of they believed in marrying children and molesting children because their leader was a pedophile so if you're calling that the good old days then you're probably not going to be invited over to my house for any holidays anytime soon

And lastly it is not healthy for parents to accept their acronym child exactly the way they are because if we do that then we also have to accept them when they become serial killers and molesters because those people feel like serial killers and child molesters just like the acronym child feels like an acronym

so why does one insane or mentally unstable child get what they want and the other doesn't? The worst thing you can do is tell a child that they were born perfect exactly the way they are and that there is no need to change or be better or grow

and that's a terrible parent and that's a terrible thing to say to a child and you'll end up with a terrible person when they grow up just look at how Society is going right now this is the first wave of terrible

MAYA EL wrote: ↑May 5th, 2023, 10:38 am

Greatest I am wrote: ↑January 8th, 2023, 3:23 pm Equality is downsizing religions, as parents refuse to downsize their love for an LGBTQ+ or female child.

Premise ---
Parents want to love their LGBTQ+ kids without prejudice or negative discrimination.

I see Christianity and all religiosity shrinking. Churches closing, etc, while new Temples and Mosques of the wisdom seeking genre, --- as opposed to God seeker, --- are popping up to replace the God seeker religions.

This intelligent trend is to put humans and universality and inclusion over the Gods we have created, --- is nice to see as it returns us to a modernized version of the ancient and better days.

Demographics and stats are clear that the God religions of today will either have to adapt to a more secular view, --- and especially stop preaching --- that a parent has to downsize their love for a LGBTQ+ child.

Gnostic Christianity and Laïcité are the future, as we already disavow such vile evil.

We curse words like --- and the men are a degree above them [women] and he will rule over you [women], etc.

Regards
DL

Nobody is teaching parents that they have to downgrade their love for an acronym child that's retarded and I'm not sure why you're trying to push that as a real thing I will tell you this though all these mosques are springing up to replace Christianity are not focusing on wisdom as opposed to a deity as you make it sound they're equally as retarded as Christianity because they're an ideology and anytime somebody follows a group ideology they give up their own personal wisdom and intelligence in the name of an ideology that makes them stupid drones.

as well as your remark about the good old days I don't know what you're talking about because I'm pretty sure there are a lot of advancements that you would prefer to keep these days and I know there's a lot I would prefer to keep these days

for instance back in the day these mosques that you speak so highly of they believed in marrying children and molesting children because their leader was a pedophile so if you're calling that the good old days then you're probably not going to be invited over to my house for any holidays anytime soon

And lastly it is not healthy for parents to accept their acronym child exactly the way they are because if we do that then we also have to accept them when they become serial killers and molesters because those people feel like serial killers and child molesters just like the acronym child feels like an acronym

so why does one insane or mentally unstable child get what they want and the other doesn't? The worst thing you can do is tell a child that they were born perfect exactly the way they are and that there is no need to change or be better or grow

and that's a terrible parent and that's a terrible thing to say to a child and you'll end up with a terrible person when they grow up just look at how Society is going right now this is the first wave of terrible

I was going to respond to this, but I think it is better standing on it's own, unadulterated.

Baby Augustine wrote: ↑January 14th, 2023, 12:20 pm I think you are wrong in almost everything you said.

Religion is BOOMING, even EXPLODING, in Africa and Asia. Why for the very reasons you refuse to admit. Here is an African woman making my point

Obianuju Ekeocha
Before even religion (which was something that came to Africa later, during the time of colonialization), first and foremost, the Africans value family and what makes family: a marriage; and what is within marriage: man, woman and children. So all of these things in practice form the core of African society. That is why we have less divorce, and that is why we have more openness to life — these things come first culturally.


But … a lot of Africans are also religious. Let’s just say that when religion came to us, it would have felt consistent with our cultural values. So [in] a lot of places you have very strong Christian populations, and in some other places, you have very strong Muslim populations. But what we hold in common is this value for family life. And if the family life is valued, then, yes, things like abortion are seen as abominations, as taboo, as horrific. … It always is an ugly thing in the minds of people that a mother could ever kill her own, be it before birth, be it after birth — it’s all the same thing: that is, horrific.

What is on the increase is bigotry, division and discord, as religions continue to fail ordinary people in a chnaging world. The religious people are retrenching in dogmatic caricatures of themselves who foster prejudice, and try to control legislatures to promote anti-human, anti-rights agendas, such as the tsunami of anti-trans legislation sweeping the Southern States in the USA.

Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 5th, 2023, 5:54 pm

Baby Augustine wrote: ↑January 14th, 2023, 12:20 pm I think you are wrong in almost everything you said.

Religion is BOOMING, even EXPLODING, in Africa and Asia. Why for the very reasons you refuse to admit. Here is an African woman making my point

Obianuju Ekeocha
Before even religion (which was something that came to Africa later, during the time of colonialization), first and foremost, the Africans value family and what makes family: a marriage; and what is within marriage: man, woman and children. So all of these things in practice form the core of African society. That is why we have less divorce, and that is why we have more openness to life — these things come first culturally.


But … a lot of Africans are also religious. Let’s just say that when religion came to us, it would have felt consistent with our cultural values. So [in] a lot of places you have very strong Christian populations, and in some other places, you have very strong Muslim populations. But what we hold in common is this value for family life. And if the family life is valued, then, yes, things like abortion are seen as abominations, as taboo, as horrific. … It always is an ugly thing in the minds of people that a mother could ever kill her own, be it before birth, be it after birth — it’s all the same thing: that is, horrific.

What is on the increase is bigotry, division and discord, as religions continue to fail ordinary people in a chnaging world. The religious people are retrenching in dogmatic caricatures of themselves who foster prejudice, and try to control legislatures to promote anti-human, anti-rights agendas, such as the tsunami of anti-trans legislation sweeping the Southern States in the USA.

No it has nothing to do with those religious people and has everything to do with what you just did see your mentality is the problem your mentality is this left versus right left wing versus right wing christian versus atheist keep in mind a left wing and a right wing both belong to the same bird

LuckyR wrote: ↑May 5th, 2023, 5:18 pm

MAYA EL wrote: ↑May 5th, 2023, 10:38 am

Greatest I am wrote: ↑January 8th, 2023, 3:23 pm Equality is downsizing religions, as parents refuse to downsize their love for an LGBTQ+ or female child.

Premise ---
Parents want to love their LGBTQ+ kids without prejudice or negative discrimination.

I see Christianity and all religiosity shrinking. Churches closing, etc, while new Temples and Mosques of the wisdom seeking genre, --- as opposed to God seeker, --- are popping up to replace the God seeker religions.

This intelligent trend is to put humans and universality and inclusion over the Gods we have created, --- is nice to see as it returns us to a modernized version of the ancient and better days.

Demographics and stats are clear that the God religions of today will either have to adapt to a more secular view, --- and especially stop preaching --- that a parent has to downsize their love for a LGBTQ+ child.

Gnostic Christianity and Laïcité are the future, as we already disavow such vile evil.

We curse words like --- and the men are a degree above them [women] and he will rule over you [women], etc.

Regards
DL

Nobody is teaching parents that they have to downgrade their love for an acronym child that's retarded and I'm not sure why you're trying to push that as a real thing I will tell you this though all these mosques are springing up to replace Christianity are not focusing on wisdom as opposed to a deity as you make it sound they're equally as retarded as Christianity because they're an ideology and anytime somebody follows a group ideology they give up their own personal wisdom and intelligence in the name of an ideology that makes them stupid drones.

as well as your remark about the good old days I don't know what you're talking about because I'm pretty sure there are a lot of advancements that you would prefer to keep these days and I know there's a lot I would prefer to keep these days

for instance back in the day these mosques that you speak so highly of they believed in marrying children and molesting children because their leader was a pedophile so if you're calling that the good old days then you're probably not going to be invited over to my house for any holidays anytime soon

And lastly it is not healthy for parents to accept their acronym child exactly the way they are because if we do that then we also have to accept them when they become serial killers and molesters because those people feel like serial killers and child molesters just like the acronym child feels like an acronym

so why does one insane or mentally unstable child get what they want and the other doesn't? The worst thing you can do is tell a child that they were born perfect exactly the way they are and that there is no need to change or be better or grow

and that's a terrible parent and that's a terrible thing to say to a child and you'll end up with a terrible person when they grow up just look at how Society is going right now this is the first wave of terrible

I was going to respond to this, but I think it is better standing on it's own, unadulterated.

Does that mean you agree with me?

It is true that most of the world is religious. Even those who are not religious will treat things with must the same desperation and focus - sex, fame, money, celebrities, companies, sports teams, products ...

This says something about the human condition. It seems to me that humans are so strongly evolved and conditioned wired to hyper-social that there is a sense of incompleteness in each individual. An emotional hole that can only be filled by a sense of connection. So people naturally latch onto what they can, like the proverbial drowning man reaching for driftwood.

As time goes on, we can expect some groups to further reject superstition while others cling onto superstition more tightly. In time, rational people aided by the technology they develop will most likely control and rule the superstitious in much the same way as Europeans and East Asians did with indigenous people.

However, the ruthless domination of religion during the Dark Ages suggests that certain conditions - be they environmental, cultural or both - can give superstition an advantage over reason. Likewise, the Third Reich shows how rationality can descend into superstitious quasi-religious ideology, while leveraging any rationality that remains to create technology, making their delusions more dangerous.

MAYA EL wrote: ↑May 7th, 2023, 5:58 pm

Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 5th, 2023, 5:54 pm

Baby Augustine wrote: ↑January 14th, 2023, 12:20 pm I think you are wrong in almost everything you said.

Religion is BOOMING, even EXPLODING, in Africa and Asia. Why for the very reasons you refuse to admit. Here is an African woman making my point

Obianuju Ekeocha
Before even religion (which was something that came to Africa later, during the time of colonialization), first and foremost, the Africans value family and what makes family: a marriage; and what is within marriage: man, woman and children. So all of these things in practice form the core of African society. That is why we have less divorce, and that is why we have more openness to life — these things come first culturally.


But … a lot of Africans are also religious. Let’s just say that when religion came to us, it would have felt consistent with our cultural values. So [in] a lot of places you have very strong Christian populations, and in some other places, you have very strong Muslim populations. But what we hold in common is this value for family life. And if the family life is valued, then, yes, things like abortion are seen as abominations, as taboo, as horrific. … It always is an ugly thing in the minds of people that a mother could ever kill her own, be it before birth, be it after birth — it’s all the same thing: that is, horrific.

What is on the increase is bigotry, division and discord, as religions continue to fail ordinary people in a chnaging world. The religious people are retrenching in dogmatic caricatures of themselves who foster prejudice, and try to control legislatures to promote anti-human, anti-rights agendas, such as the tsunami of anti-trans legislation sweeping the Southern States in the USA.

No it has nothing to do with those religious people and has everything to do with what you just did see your mentality is the problem your mentality is this left versus right left wing versus right wing christian versus atheist keep in mind a left wing and a right wing both belong to the same bird

Looks like your mentality is at fault here, or maybe just ignorant of what is happening in the USA
DO you agree that that prescribing or taking the Mornng After Pill should be a capital crime?
yes/no?
I can only conclude that you have no been paying attention to the new christian rights legal moves to trun the USA into Gilead.