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This topic is about the April 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, 2X2 on the Ark: Five Secrets of a Great Relationship by Mary J Giuffra, PhD



Since the author is discussing about relationships, I thought to discuss about a novel term and a concept that I recently heard; ecosexuality.

For those who have not heard about it

Sexecology, also known as ecosexuality, is a radical form of environmental activism based around nature fetishism, the idea of the earth as a lover. It invites people to treat the earth with love rather than see it as an infinite resource to exploit.

(Wikipidea)

I see it as another sexual fantasy with some sort of a 'legitimization' with its relation to the concept of 'saving mother earth'.

What do you think about it? Is it a totally natural thing, or is it a mental illness? Does it really help to save the earth?

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am I see it as another sexual fantasy with some sort of a 'legitimization' with its relation to the concept of 'saving mother earth'.

I see it as a distraction from trying to save what's left of our world, conflating it with sexuality when the two don't seem to meld well, to me. Weird.

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am This topic is about the April 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, 2X2 on the Ark: Five Secrets of a Great Relationship by Mary J Giuffra, PhD



Since the author is discussing about relationships, I thought to discuss about a novel term and a concept that I recently heard; ecosexuality.

For those who have not heard about it

Sexecology, also known as ecosexuality, is a radical form of environmental activism based around nature fetishism, the idea of the earth as a lover. It invites people to treat the earth with love rather than see it as an infinite resource to exploit.

(Wikipidea)

I see it as another sexual fantasy with some sort of a 'legitimization' with its relation to the concept of 'saving mother earth'.

What do you think about it? Is it a totally natural thing, or is it a mental illness? Does it really help to save the earth?

The closest I have come to anybody embracing ecosexuality was a comment by a female artist friend. She described herself as asexual because she doesn't really want a relationship with a man, woman or anyone. She went on to say that she sometimes has fallen in love with trees. I smiled and told her that she must be
treesexual.

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am For those who have not heard about it

Sexecology, also known as ecosexuality, is a radical form of environmental activism based around nature fetishism, the idea of the earth as a lover. It invites people to treat the earth with love rather than see it as an infinite resource to exploit.

(Wikipidea)

I think the word is misleading. The sexual part, that is. I can understand, and frequently experience, treating the Earth with love (or something similar). But, if we must move toward sexual terms, I would see love for the Earth as love for a brother or sister, or perhaps most appropriately: as a mother. Non-sexual, in my eyes.

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am This topic is about the April 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, 2X2 on the Ark: Five Secrets of a Great Relationship by Mary J Giuffra, PhD



Since the author is discussing about relationships, I thought to discuss about a novel term and a concept that I recently heard; ecosexuality.

For those who have not heard about it

Sexecology, also known as ecosexuality, is a radical form of environmental activism based around nature fetishism, the idea of the earth as a lover. It invites people to treat the earth with love rather than see it as an infinite resource to exploit.

(Wikipidea)

I see it as another sexual fantasy with some sort of a 'legitimization' with its relation to the concept of 'saving mother earth'.

Well, I don't have sexual desires directed to my mother, so why should I have sexual desires directed to "mother earth"?
Sorry but "sexuality" for me necessarily is connected with desires, so "ecosexuality" causes a weird concept.

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am What do you think about it? Is it a totally natural thing, or is it a mental illness? Does it really help to save the earth?

I think it is an instance of mental "wankism"

I wonder if the appreciation of nature may border onto the erotic, involving a sense of awe and wonder, even such as that of nature mysticism. It can involve sensory delight and aesthetic contemplation. Perhaps, human beings have become cut off from nature and ecosexuality is even seen in a rather limited appreciation of what sexuality is about. It may be that many see sexuality about satisfaction of desires rather than appreciation of the senses and connections based on such aesthetics. It may also involve respect for nature rather than treating it without care.

This idea gives new meaning to the phrase, "Getting a woody."

Gee

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:23 am

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am I see it as another sexual fantasy with some sort of a 'legitimization' with its relation to the concept of 'saving mother earth'.

I see it as a distraction from trying to save what's left of our world, conflating it with sexuality when the two don't seem to meld well, to me. Weird.

Yes, wierd, but cannot say the two does not go together. I heard some ecosexuals saying that they get aroused just by walking on the beach barefoot (or naked if they prefer so). The mere feeling of sand between their toes arouse them, in turn enhancing their love to the earth.

JackDaydream wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:31 am

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am This topic is about the April 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, 2X2 on the Ark: Five Secrets of a Great Relationship by Mary J Giuffra, PhD



Since the author is discussing about relationships, I thought to discuss about a novel term and a concept that I recently heard; ecosexuality.

For those who have not heard about it

Sexecology, also known as ecosexuality, is a radical form of environmental activism based around nature fetishism, the idea of the earth as a lover. It invites people to treat the earth with love rather than see it as an infinite resource to exploit.

(Wikipidea)

I see it as another sexual fantasy with some sort of a 'legitimization' with its relation to the concept of 'saving mother earth'.

What do you think about it? Is it a totally natural thing, or is it a mental illness? Does it really help to save the earth?

The closest I have come to anybody embracing ecosexuality was a comment by a female artist friend. She described herself as asexual because she doesn't really want a relationship with a man, woman or anyone. She went on to say that she sometimes has fallen in love with trees. I smiled and told her that she must be
treesexual.

I think we all can say we love earth , environment, flora, fauna, etc. But many of us do not give that statement a sexual value. These ecosexuals say the same thing, but with an added sexual touch and feel to it.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 12:18 pm

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am For those who have not heard about it

Sexecology, also known as ecosexuality, is a radical form of environmental activism based around nature fetishism, the idea of the earth as a lover. It invites people to treat the earth with love rather than see it as an infinite resource to exploit.

(Wikipidea)

I think the word is misleading. The sexual part, that is. I can understand, and frequently experience, treating the Earth with love (or something similar). But, if we must move toward sexual terms, I would see love for the Earth as love for a brother or sister, or perhaps most appropriately: as a mother. Non-sexual, in my eyes.

No, the term and the associated cult is really involved with the earth sexually. Please search on internet and you will see ecosexuals doing sexual ritual-kind things with the earth. Their love is not as love to a brother or sister, but as to a mate with whom you can get sexually intimate.

stevie wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 1:41 pm

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am This topic is about the April 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, 2X2 on the Ark: Five Secrets of a Great Relationship by Mary J Giuffra, PhD



Since the author is discussing about relationships, I thought to discuss about a novel term and a concept that I recently heard; ecosexuality.

For those who have not heard about it

Sexecology, also known as ecosexuality, is a radical form of environmental activism based around nature fetishism, the idea of the earth as a lover. It invites people to treat the earth with love rather than see it as an infinite resource to exploit.

(Wikipidea)

I see it as another sexual fantasy with some sort of a 'legitimization' with its relation to the concept of 'saving mother earth'.

Well, I don't have sexual desires directed to my mother, so why should I have sexual desires directed to "mother earth"?
Sorry but "sexuality" for me necessarily is connected with desires, so "ecosexuality" causes a weird concept.

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am What do you think about it? Is it a totally natural thing, or is it a mental illness? Does it really help to save the earth?

I think it is an instance of mental "wankism"

Wankism is a good term to introduce this concept. But the name ecosexuality is not just a big term used to name an unusual concept. It really has a cult. There are people who follow the practice.

I agree on what you said about not having sexual desires towards your own mother. But I would like to mention the Freudian Oedipus Complex which is still being accepted by some psychologists.

JackDaydream wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 1:53 pm I wonder if the appreciation of nature may border onto the erotic, involving a sense of awe and wonder, even such as that of nature mysticism. It can involve sensory delight and aesthetic contemplation. Perhaps, human beings have become cut off from nature and ecosexuality is even seen in a rather limited appreciation of what sexuality is about. It may be that many see sexuality about satisfaction of desires rather than appreciation of the senses and connections based on such aesthetics. It may also involve respect for nature rather than treating it without care.

I think you have a point. Rather than thinking about sexual desires and acts as cheap ways and means to get satisfaction, if we think about it as the highest state of trust and care to someone, then applying it towards earth will be the best move to save it from destruction.

Gee wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 10:48 pm This idea gives new meaning to the phrase, "Getting a woody."

Gee

Quite funny . But if you say this to an ecosexual he/she might have taken that seriously, because they are seriously involved in what they believe and what they do.

Sushan wrote: ↑April 10th, 2022, 7:32 am No, the term and the associated cult is really involved with the earth sexually. Please search on internet and you will see ecosexuals doing sexual ritual-kind things with the earth. Their love is not as love to a brother or sister, but as to a mate with whom you can get sexually intimate.

OK. There are many things humans do that cause a great deal more harm than this, so I have no reason to condemn these people. But I have no interest in it. I consider myself a strong environmentalist, but this is too weird for me.

Sushan wrote: ↑April 10th, 2022, 7:30 am

JackDaydream wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:31 am

Sushan wrote: ↑April 9th, 2022, 11:15 am This topic is about the April 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, 2X2 on the Ark: Five Secrets of a Great Relationship by Mary J Giuffra, PhD



Since the author is discussing about relationships, I thought to discuss about a novel term and a concept that I recently heard; ecosexuality.

For those who have not heard about it

Sexecology, also known as ecosexuality, is a radical form of environmental activism based around nature fetishism, the idea of the earth as a lover. It invites people to treat the earth with love rather than see it as an infinite resource to exploit.

(Wikipidea)

I see it as another sexual fantasy with some sort of a 'legitimization' with its relation to the concept of 'saving mother earth'.

What do you think about it? Is it a totally natural thing, or is it a mental illness? Does it really help to save the earth?

The closest I have come to anybody embracing ecosexuality was a comment by a female artist friend. She described herself as asexual because she doesn't really want a relationship with a man, woman or anyone. She went on to say that she sometimes has fallen in love with trees. I smiled and told her that she must be
treesexual.

I think we all can say we love earth , environment, flora, fauna, etc. But many of us do not give that statement a sexual value. These ecosexuals say the same thing, but with an added sexual touch and feel to it.

I am not sure why some people here seem to find the idea of ecosexuality so weird. My own feeling is that this is not really based on ecology but on an underlying model of sexuality as mere physicality. Sexuality can have a spiritual component. Also, eros is about the idea of aesthetic appreciation of the body.