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East Asian Buddhism

Posted: May 16th, 2021, 12:48 pm
by Arnold
The fact is that one person who considered himself a Buddhist told me that Buddhists living in China, Japan, South Korea and Singapore do not believe that other people have consciousness, feelings, emotions and sensations.
But I do not believe it. It scared me.
So I want to ask you:

Do modern Buddhists living in China, Japan, South Korea, and Singapore(more than 400 million people) believe that all the people they see, all the people they talk to have thoughts, consciousness, feelings and feel emotions and feel sensations?

All the main modern schools of Buddhism in China, Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Vietnam believe and teach that all people in our world, all the people we see, all the people we talk to have thoughts, consciousness, memories, sensations, feelings and emotions ?

Re: East Asian Buddhism

Posted: May 17th, 2021, 9:10 am
by Pattern-chaser
Is it possible that this is related to the Buddhist view that there is no such thing as the "self"? If there is no self, there are no "consciousness, feelings, emotions and sensations" either, yes?

Re: East Asian Buddhism

Posted: May 17th, 2021, 9:18 am
by Arnold
Pattern-chaser wrote: May 17th, 2021, 9:10 am Is it possible that this is related to the Buddhist view that there is no such thing as the "self"? If there is no self, there are no "consciousness, feelings, emotions and sensations" either, yes?
The fact is that no matter how they want, they will not be able to deny their feelings and thoughts.

The question is: When Buddhists see people do they believe that these people have thoughts, feelings, emotions?

Re: East Asian Buddhism

Posted: May 18th, 2021, 6:33 am
by Pattern-chaser
Arnold wrote: May 17th, 2021, 9:18 am The question is: When Buddhists see people do they believe that these people have thoughts, feelings, emotions?
OK, then my answer is that they do, yes. What makes you think otherwise? Your OP begins with something someone told you. Is there more to it than this (unjustified) claim?

Re: East Asian Buddhism

Posted: May 19th, 2021, 1:25 am
by popeye1945
The idea is that there is no self, this is to be realized. There are emotions, thoughts etc it is just that they are not you, you are having them and you examine them and watch them come and go, if you are not these things, what are you?

Re: East Asian Buddhism

Posted: May 19th, 2021, 11:55 am
by detail
Buddhism is a road that one travels. The sentient beeing tries to deprive from the kamma forming driving forces by keeping the four noble truth and walking the divine noble eightfold way. The way to buddhism should improve with time by traversing the jhanas , by changing the pathamajjana.
Once having reached the stage of neither feeling nor sensing , the avrupa majjana of buddhism, one is capable for the timelike experience of the satori the enlightenment. The sensing of buddhism changes from the state of meditation and the state of enlightenment you choose. No self is a stage which is beyon the avrupa majjana the stage of neither feeling or sensing, which a very long way of meditation .