If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortune

If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortune#304061

By growthhormone - January 30th, 2018, 12:43 am

- January 30th, 2018, 12:43 am #304061

A fortune teller sees through a crystal ball and tells you the future. If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortune telling? Is this related to philosophy? If it is, what is the philosophical link between our future and the melting of an ice cube?

Re: If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortu#304185

By LuckyR - January 31st, 2018, 5:10 pm

- January 31st, 2018, 5:10 pm #304185

growthhormone wrote: ↑January 30th, 2018, 12:43 am A fortune teller sees through a crystal ball and tells you the future. If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortune telling? Is this related to philosophy? If it is, what is the philosophical link between our future and the melting of an ice cube?

But is that what they are telling you? Many, if not most would disagree with you.

"As usual... it depends."

Re: If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortu#304211

By growthhormone - January 31st, 2018, 10:21 pm

- January 31st, 2018, 10:21 pm #304211

LuckyR wrote: ↑January 31st, 2018, 5:10 pm
growthhormone wrote: ↑January 30th, 2018, 12:43 am A fortune teller sees through a crystal ball and tells you the future. If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortune telling? Is this related to philosophy? If it is, what is the philosophical link between our future and the melting of an ice cube?
But is that what they are telling you? Many, if not most would disagree with you.

Ha, Ha, actually I don't expect anyone answer this question but it is a deep scientific philosophy question. It is physics!

Re: If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortu#304244

By LuckyR - February 1st, 2018, 2:44 am

- February 1st, 2018, 2:44 am #304244

growthhormone wrote: ↑January 31st, 2018, 10:21 pm
LuckyR wrote: ↑January 31st, 2018, 5:10 pm

But is that what they are telling you? Many, if not most would disagree with you.
Ha, Ha, actually I don't expect anyone answer this question but it is a deep scientific philosophy question. It is physics!

Sounds like you can't (won't?) answer my question.

"As usual... it depends."

Re: If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortu#305554

By Scribbler60 - February 17th, 2018, 2:41 pm

- February 17th, 2018, 2:41 pm #305554

growthhormone wrote: ↑January 30th, 2018, 12:43 am A fortune teller sees through a crystal ball and tells you the future. If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortune telling?

Neither. It's bunk. Codswallop. Flapdoodle. No different than divining the future using chicken innards or astrology or similar.

Time is linear. We can remember the past but we cannot remember the future. That's just the way it is.

Re: If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortu#305603

By Chili - February 18th, 2018, 2:50 pm

- February 18th, 2018, 2:50 pm #305603

growthhormone wrote: ↑January 30th, 2018, 12:43 am A fortune teller sees through a crystal ball and tells you the future. If someone sees through the melting of an ice cube and tells you the future of human being, is this science or fortune telling? Is this related to philosophy? If it is, what is the philosophical link between our future and the melting of an ice cube?

Is the individual causally isolated from the fortune teller? If they are in conversation, what's to keep the individual from being contrary and intentionally doing something else? A so the question of "is it science" this refers to the method. If one finds that if one focuses one's mind on an ice cube, then one's intuitions become more clear, and these prove correct often, that would be a test of a sort and thus science of a sort.