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Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 12:27 am

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 26th, 2024, 2:02 pm The magnetism theory explains everything.

What has belief or non belief got to do with sound philosophy and science or two equal but opposite electromagnetic forces that cannot be cancelled out?

Are you so unaware?

Leave belief or non belief out of it.

Belief or non belief have nothing to do with the above because people, yourself included, are not "science", " sound philosophy", or "electro magnetic forces".
You are a person therefore you believe in some ideas and disbelieve in other ideas.

Belindi wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 8:24 am

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 12:27 am

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 26th, 2024, 2:02 pm The magnetism theory explains everything.

What has belief or non belief got to do with sound philosophy and science or two equal but opposite electromagnetic forces that cannot be cancelled out?

Are you so unaware?

Leave belief or non belief out of it.

Belief or non belief have nothing to do with the above because people, yourself included, are not "science", " sound philosophy", or "electro magnetic forces".
You are a person therefore you believe in some ideas and disbelieve in other ideas.

I believe in sound philosophy and science that explains the psychological Belindi.

I have found what I am looking for, have you?

Sy Borg wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 10:30 pm

Count Lucanor wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 9:31 pm

Sy Borg wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 1:02 am
All we can do is HOPE that Zeus, Hera, Poseidon and Aphrodite are real!

And since apparently no proposed entity can be "proven not to exist", not even the Flying Teapot or the Dragon in My Garage, I guess our real best HOPE is that the heavens are populated with a lot of mighty powerful entities, thousands of them. I wonder how they get along with each other.

Why is Yahweh treated as if it's real when almost no one believes in his peers - the Greek, Roman and Norse gods? It looks like cultural competition. Nations of the Middle East were the dominant powers for centuries. With the Greek and Roman empires, Europeans forged their own identity. However, when Constantine surrendered to Christianity (most likely due to hallucinations induced by lead poisoning), he invited the Middle East to re-take Europe in a cultural sense.

The remnants of this invasion maintain a strong foothold in Europe to this day. That may be why Europe is more secular than the rest of the world - Europeans subconsciously trying to reclaim their cultural identity, to shake off the shackles of Middle Eastern mediaeval ideas that have dominated them for too long.

I take it that Jacob10 is a re-name of Joshua10? The nonsense about NS and NN magnetic poles seems to say so.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 9:12 am

Sy Borg wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 10:30 pm

Count Lucanor wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 9:31 pm

Sy Borg wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 1:02 am
All we can do is HOPE that Zeus, Hera, Poseidon and Aphrodite are real!

And since apparently no proposed entity can be "proven not to exist", not even the Flying Teapot or the Dragon in My Garage, I guess our real best HOPE is that the heavens are populated with a lot of mighty powerful entities, thousands of them. I wonder how they get along with each other.

Why is Yahweh treated as if it's real when almost no one believes in his peers - the Greek, Roman and Norse gods? It looks like cultural competition. Nations of the Middle East were the dominant powers for centuries. With the Greek and Roman empires, Europeans forged their own identity. However, when Constantine surrendered to Christianity (most likely due to hallucinations induced by lead poisoning), he invited the Middle East to re-take Europe in a cultural sense.

The remnants of this invasion maintain a strong foothold in Europe to this day. That may be why Europe is more secular than the rest of the world - Europeans subconsciously trying to reclaim their cultural identity, to shake off the shackles of Middle Eastern mediaeval ideas that have dominated them for too long.

I take it that Jacob10 is a re-name of Joshua10? The nonsense about NS and NN magnetic poles seems to say so.

Electromagnetism is directly associated with the consciousness experience Pattern-chaser. How can you not mention NS and NN magnetic poles therefore?

The issue you have is that you are unable to relate it to your consciousness experience.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 9:12 am

Sy Borg wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 10:30 pm

Count Lucanor wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 9:31 pm

Sy Borg wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 1:02 am
All we can do is HOPE that Zeus, Hera, Poseidon and Aphrodite are real!

And since apparently no proposed entity can be "proven not to exist", not even the Flying Teapot or the Dragon in My Garage, I guess our real best HOPE is that the heavens are populated with a lot of mighty powerful entities, thousands of them. I wonder how they get along with each other.

Why is Yahweh treated as if it's real when almost no one believes in his peers - the Greek, Roman and Norse gods? It looks like cultural competition. Nations of the Middle East were the dominant powers for centuries. With the Greek and Roman empires, Europeans forged their own identity. However, when Constantine surrendered to Christianity (most likely due to hallucinations induced by lead poisoning), he invited the Middle East to re-take Europe in a cultural sense.

The remnants of this invasion maintain a strong foothold in Europe to this day. That may be why Europe is more secular than the rest of the world - Europeans subconsciously trying to reclaim their cultural identity, to shake off the shackles of Middle Eastern mediaeval ideas that have dominated them for too long.

I take it that Jacob10 is a re-name of Joshua10? The nonsense about NS and NN magnetic poles seems to say so.

Ha ha, you're more observant than I am. I just saw the capital J and the 10 and put everything in the pre-labelled bin.

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 9:06 am

Belindi wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 8:24 am

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 12:27 am

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 26th, 2024, 2:02 pm The magnetism theory explains everything.

What has belief or non belief got to do with sound philosophy and science or two equal but opposite electromagnetic forces that cannot be cancelled out?

Are you so unaware?

Leave belief or non belief out of it.

Belief or non belief have nothing to do with the above because people, yourself included, are not "science", " sound philosophy", or "electro magnetic forces".
You are a person therefore you believe in some ideas and disbelieve in other ideas.

I believe in sound philosophy and science that explains the psychological Belindi.

I have found what I am looking for, have you?

Uummm... pretty much everyone has a functional working model that does the job.

LuckyR wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 5:47 pm

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 9:06 am

Belindi wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 8:24 am

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 12:27 am

What has belief or non belief got to do with sound philosophy and science or two equal but opposite electromagnetic forces that cannot be cancelled out?

Are you so unaware?

Leave belief or non belief out of it.

Belief or non belief have nothing to do with the above because people, yourself included, are not "science", " sound philosophy", or "electro magnetic forces".
You are a person therefore you believe in some ideas and disbelieve in other ideas.

I believe in sound philosophy and science that explains the psychological Belindi.

I have found what I am looking for, have you?

Uummm... pretty much everyone has a functional working model that does the job.

Utter nonsense.

Mental health is at crisis point everywhere and all that atheism has to offer is let’s all pretend that as nobody exists then the mental health crisis must be an illusion?

Atheistic philosophy and science does not explain the psychological Belindi.

God is not an impossibility.

Common sense should tell you that Atheism is not going to pursue the correct philosophy and science.

Atheistic philosophy and science is an impossibility because it doesn’t explain the psychological.

We have to remember that atheistic science freely admits that it doesn’t know what force cause it’s (mythical) single Big Bang and tries to explain its (mythical) Big Crunch with a still unknown force.

These are the facts.

Not very good is it?

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 6:26 pm Atheistic philosophy and science is an impossibility because it doesn’t explain the psychological.

We have to remember that atheistic science freely admits that it doesn’t know what force cause it’s (mythical) single Big Bang and tries to explain its (mythical) Big Crunch with a still unknown force.

These are the facts.

Not very good is it?

Joshua, by "the psychological" I assume you refer to the hard problem of consciousness. You complain that science has not worked it out, but religion sure hasn't. Same applies with the universe's history.

All you can do is apply the God of the Gaps, a known logical fallacy.

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 6:06 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 5:47 pm

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 9:06 am

Belindi wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 8:24 am
Belief or non belief have nothing to do with the above because people, yourself included, are not "science", " sound philosophy", or "electro magnetic forces".
You are a person therefore you believe in some ideas and disbelieve in other ideas.

I believe in sound philosophy and science that explains the psychological Belindi.

I have found what I am looking for, have you?

Uummm... pretty much everyone has a functional working model that does the job.

Utter nonsense.

Mental health is at crisis point everywhere and all that atheism has to offer is let’s all pretend that as nobody exists then the mental health crisis must be an illusion?

Atheistic philosophy and science does not explain the psychological Belindi.

God is not an impossibility.

Common sense should tell you that Atheism is not going to pursue the correct philosophy and science.

Common sense. Right. Funny how some try to peddle the concept they have the inside track on something that's supposed to be "common". You've definitely convinced yourself. How's it going on getting a quorum?

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 6:06 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 5:47 pm

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 9:06 am

Belindi wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 8:24 am
Belief or non belief have nothing to do with the above because people, yourself included, are not "science", " sound philosophy", or "electro magnetic forces".
You are a person therefore you believe in some ideas and disbelieve in other ideas.

I believe in sound philosophy and science that explains the psychological Belindi.

I have found what I am looking for, have you?

Uummm... pretty much everyone has a functional working model that does the job.

Utter nonsense.

Mental health is at crisis point everywhere and all that atheism has to offer is let’s all pretend that as nobody exists then the mental health crisis must be an illusion?

Atheistic philosophy and science does not explain the psychological Belindi.

God is not an impossibility.

Common sense should tell you that Atheism is not going to pursue the correct philosophy and science.

Common sense. Right. Funny how some try to peddle the concept they have a special understanding of something that's supposed to be "common". You've definitely convinced yourself. How's it going on getting a quorum?

Oh and BTW, if in fact there's a mental health crisis "everywhere", since atheism (plus agnosticism) comprises about 6 to 7% of folks, I guess theism is responsible for 93% of the crisis and has 93% of the burden for fixing it. How's that going?

Sy Borg wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 6:49 pm

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 6:26 pm Atheistic philosophy and science is an impossibility because it doesn’t explain the psychological.

We have to remember that atheistic science freely admits that it doesn’t know what force cause it’s (mythical) single Big Bang and tries to explain its (mythical) Big Crunch with a still unknown force.

These are the facts.

Not very good is it?

Joshua, by "the psychological" I assume you refer to the hard problem of consciousness. You complain that science has not worked it out, but religion sure hasn't. Same applies with the universe's history.

All you can do is apply the God of the Gaps, a known logical fallacy.

I am referring to everything associated with the brain/mind interface including consciousness.This is where atheism is the weakest which is why it doesn’t understand consciousness.Atheism claims that the individual does not exist but this is a known fallacy.We know this by just one word,CONTROL.

If the individual doesn’t exist then no psychological control is possible.However,as all individual do exist then psychological control is possible.Clearly,an atheists isn’t going to introduce psychological control if they have been persuaded that they don’t exist to be able to introduce that control.Not all individuals are atheists though and therefore some do introduce psychological control.This is how some non atheists know that atheistic philosophy and science is incorrect and discard it immediately for an alternative philosophy and science that is correct because it explains the psychological. As I have said to Belindi,I have found what I am looking for so I don’t debate with atheists with the possibility of being persuaded by their belief system which I know is incorrect. No,not at all.

As all individuals can introduce psychological control because they exist, this means that the whole of the psychological hierarchy has been updated. As an individual can introduce control then there is clearly a part of our make up that exists to be able to introduce that control.

Atheism in its confused weakness claims that none of us exist and that everything is an illusion and we may be consciousness but then again it isn’t sure because consciousness is it’s “hard problem”.For now,atheism has settled down into believing that we are all nothing more than mere thoughts and emotional responses.

Thoughts and Emotions are on the lowest rungs of the psychological hierarchy.

LuckyR wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 2:05 am

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 6:06 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 5:47 pm

Jacob10 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2024, 9:06 am

I believe in sound philosophy and science that explains the psychological Belindi.

I have found what I am looking for, have you?

Uummm... pretty much everyone has a functional working model that does the job.

Utter nonsense.

Mental health is at crisis point everywhere and all that atheism has to offer is let’s all pretend that as nobody exists then the mental health crisis must be an illusion?

Atheistic philosophy and science does not explain the psychological Belindi.

God is not an impossibility.

Common sense should tell you that Atheism is not going to pursue the correct philosophy and science.

Common sense. Right. Funny how some try to peddle the concept they have a special understanding of something that's supposed to be "common". You've definitely convinced yourself. How's it going on getting a quorum?

Oh and BTW, if in fact there's a mental health crisis "everywhere", since atheism (plus agnosticism) comprises about 6 to 7% of folks, I guess theism is responsible for 93% of the crisis and has 93% of the burden for fixing it. How's that going?

6 to 7% !! Well if you want believe that Belindi. It’s just another wild guess.Atheism is very good at that we know.We know all about its widely speculative and incorrect philosophy and science now which is based upon its foundation philosophical belief system which makes no connection whatsoever to sound science.

You need reassess what you mean by theism by the way.Mere belief in a God won’t help you at the end of the day Belindi.

How little you know about anything at all that really matters.

Sorry I meant LuckyR.