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Your words mean nothing when Russia is clearly trying to commit genocide in Ukraine, to wipe its people from existence.

You support Putin's attempted genocide. And you are a theist. And then you have the unmitigated nerve to claim that I am driven by hatred, but this is pure projection of your own hatred. I'm not the one defending the genocide of innocent people. There is no greater expression of hatred than genocide. Then again, theists have some attempted genocide in their history, such as the purging of pagans by early Roman Catholicism. Really, no one hates more intensely than theists.

You are completely wrong about hatred on my part, as you are wrong with almost everything, it seems. It's not hatred of religion and dogmatic ideology but a recognition that these are antithetical to philosophy. And this is a philosophy forum. I expect philosophising from people on this forum, not dogma. Feel free to be religious or dogmatic on other forums or out in the world, but you clearly have no interest in philosophy here, only preaching your religious and political ideas.

Sy Borg wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 1:08 am Your words mean nothing when Russia is clearly trying to commit genocide in Ukraine, to wipe its people from existence.

You support genocide. And you are a theist. And then you have the unmitigated nerve to claim that I am driven by hatred, but this is pure projection of your own hatred. I'm not the one defending the genocide of innocent people. There is no greater expression of hatred than genocide. Then again, theists have some attempted genocide in their history, such as the purging of pagans by early Roman Catholicism. And no one hates more intensely than theists.

You are completely wrong about hatred on my part, as you are wrong with almost everything, it seems. It's not hatred of religion and dogmatic ideology but a recognition that these are antithetical to philosophy. And this is a philosophy forum. I expect philosophising from people on this forum, not dogma. Feel free to be religious or dogmatic on other forums, but what you clearly have no interest in philosophy, only preaching your religious ideas.

So, you are not willing to see the Genocide and Violence used by West Ukraine upon East since 2014?
So, You are not willing to see the "High Dealings" done by "US" to grab control over all Seas, and ready to be Violent if some other nation like China, India wants to make Trade without Influence of US?
So, You are not willing to see the Crime done by US for keeping it's Economical Dominance over many nations?

Sy Borg wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 1:08 am Your words mean nothing when Russia is clearly trying to commit genocide in Ukraine, to wipe its people from existence.

You support Putin's attempted genocide. And you are a theist. And then you have the unmitigated nerve to claim that I am driven by hatred, but this is pure projection of your own hatred. I'm not the one defending the genocide of innocent people. There is no greater expression of hatred than genocide. Then again, theists have some attempted genocide in their history, such as the purging of pagans by early Roman Catholicism. Really, no one hates more intensely than theists.

You are completely wrong about hatred on my part, as you are wrong with almost everything, it seems. It's not hatred of religion and dogmatic ideology but a recognition that these are antithetical to philosophy. And this is a philosophy forum. I expect philosophising from people on this forum, not dogma. Feel free to be religious or dogmatic on other forums or out in the world, but you clearly have no interest in philosophy here, only preaching your religious and political ideas.

See, I m not interested in World. Only putting n End to Rebirth. Why would I support Soviet Russia or some other?
I am Religious in a way to Understand Reality about World-Life-Limitations.
I can live under US or Russia or India or Secularist or Theist or anyone. Nothing can stop my Peace. I won't support any or deny any, and no it's level accordingly.

You are just accusing me without any knowledge about my living or my posts.
I do not support Violence and Genoside caused by Russia, as well as by Ukraine/US. If you want to kill Putin for his Crime, I will be the first to kill him. Not only him, but those Politicians in Ukraine who committed crime since 2014.

I am just trying to show you Reality, but you are just Identifying me as "Supporting Russia and Genocide" where truly I'm not.

I m just showing the way to stop Russia from using Genocide and Violence.

And only way is to handover Crimea and Liberate Donbas/other Regions. He don't want Russian supporters in those Regions to face Brutality by Ukraine Politicians and Military. Also, He don't want Russia to go under "Economical Dominance of US" to become slave to US's Cruelty.
Until this happens, he won't quit until he dies.

Again, I am not supporting Russia/Putin, or hating US or Secularist. This is what Reality is, and he won't back himself. He may use Nuclear too for that. What I speak is for Humanity and avoid all such Cruelty.

Sy Borg wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 1:08 am Your words mean nothing when Russia is clearly trying to commit genocide in Ukraine, to wipe its people from existence.

You support Putin's attempted genocide. And you are a theist. And then you have the unmitigated nerve to claim that I am driven by hatred, but this is pure projection of your own hatred. I'm not the one defending the genocide of innocent people. There is no greater expression of hatred than genocide. Then again, theists have some attempted genocide in their history, such as the purging of pagans by early Roman Catholicism. Really, no one hates more intensely than theists.

You are completely wrong about hatred on my part, as you are wrong with almost everything, it seems. It's not hatred of religion and dogmatic ideology but a recognition that these are antithetical to philosophy. And this is a philosophy forum. I expect philosophising from people on this forum, not dogma. Feel free to be religious or dogmatic on other forums or out in the world, but you clearly have no interest in philosophy here, only preaching your religious and political ideas.

I know there is Cruelty in Theism, as much as in Democracy. There is no single way of living without harming and dominating Another.

And so, I am not interested in living a life by harming other, but just stop Rebirth, and until then not affected by any.

Viswa_01210 wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 1:38 am I m just showing the way to stop Russia from using Genocide and Violence.

And only way is to handover Crimea and Liberate Donbas/other Regions. He don't want Russian supporters in those Regions to face Brutality by Ukraine Politicians and Military. Also, He don't want Russia to go under "Economical Dominance of US" to become slave to US's Cruelty.
Until this happens, he won't quit until he dies.

Again, I am not supporting Russia/Putin, or hating US or Secularist. This is what Reality is, and he won't back himself. He may use Nuclear too for that. What I speak is for Humanity and avoid all such Cruelty.

"Liberate" Donbas?

Maybe Pakistan should liberate Kashmir from India? Perhaps China should liberate those in Arunachal Pradesh too? It looks like it should be a part of China.

Stealing another country, or a region of another country, is not liberation, it's an invasion.

Sy Borg wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 3:50 am

Viswa_01210 wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 1:38 am I m just showing the way to stop Russia from using Genocide and Violence.

And only way is to handover Crimea and Liberate Donbas/other Regions. He don't want Russian supporters in those Regions to face Brutality by Ukraine Politicians and Military. Also, He don't want Russia to go under "Economical Dominance of US" to become slave to US's Cruelty.
Until this happens, he won't quit until he dies.

Again, I am not supporting Russia/Putin, or hating US or Secularist. This is what Reality is, and he won't back himself. He may use Nuclear too for that. What I speak is for Humanity and avoid all such Cruelty.

"Liberate" Donbas?

Maybe Pakistan should liberate Kashmir from India? Perhaps China should liberate those in Arunachal Pradesh too? It looks like it should be a part of China.

Stealing another country, or a region of another country, is not liberation, it's an invasion.

You said You are Secularist, and respect People's needs of such Place, but now you are speaking as One conditioned to Nation.

The People in Kashmir mostly need to Join Pakistan. Few needs to Join India. So, why not give Kashmir to Pakistan and Immigrate those Few who want to join India? What's the issue? Isn't it Peaceful Negotiation and Democracy?
Likewise, why not in Arunachal Pradesh? But, In Arunachal Pradesh, People mostly want to be In India. It's a Domination of Chinese over there, which is not liked mostly by People of Arunachal Pradesh.

Are you truly Secularist, or a "Nation Propaganda" Person? Not ready to look at Individual People's Rights of specific areas but only "Nation" based?

Sy Borg wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 3:50 am

Viswa_01210 wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 1:38 am I m just showing the way to stop Russia from using Genocide and Violence.

And only way is to handover Crimea and Liberate Donbas/other Regions. He don't want Russian supporters in those Regions to face Brutality by Ukraine Politicians and Military. Also, He don't want Russia to go under "Economical Dominance of US" to become slave to US's Cruelty.
Until this happens, he won't quit until he dies.

Again, I am not supporting Russia/Putin, or hating US or Secularist. This is what Reality is, and he won't back himself. He may use Nuclear too for that. What I speak is for Humanity and avoid all such Cruelty.

"Liberate" Donbas?

Maybe Pakistan should liberate Kashmir from India? Perhaps China should liberate those in Arunachal Pradesh too? It looks like it should be a part of China.

Stealing another country, or a region of another country, is not liberation, it's an invasion.

Mahatma Gandhi understood needs of every People, so gave Pakistan as a place.
It's not about Nation, but about People.
No Nation hold any Authority over any Region/Land, but only People. But, Nation have Authority over Person if such Person acts against Laws of Nation.
So, Opportunity to People in Areas to be Given to decide what side they choose, or Free from either side, by understanding all "consequences".

The Munich Pact of 1938 was an attempt to appease a violent aggressor, Hitler; and the Sudetenland was conceded to Germany. This did not work as Hitler went on to invade Poland.

Viswa is dangerously optimistic about human nature which he thinks can be appeased by concessions.

India was not a democracy when the British Raj left. India's Brahmins took over from British rule and the caste system was much the same as when the British were the ruling class. I myself am lowest caste, a worker, and I support and feel the same as those low caste workers in India who defy the old hegemony.

Belindi wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 5:23 am The Munich Pact of 1938 was an attempt to appease a violent aggressor, Hitler; and the Sudetenland was conceded to Germany. This did not work as Hitler went on to invade Poland.

Viswa is dangerously optimistic about human nature which he thinks can be appeased by concessions.

India was not a democracy when the British Raj left. India's Brahmins took over from British rule and the caste system was much the same as when the British were the ruling class. I myself am lowest caste, a worker, and I support and feel the same as those low caste workers in India who defy the old hegemony.

If Hitler Invade Poland, then Poland fight back. People who reside in Border of Poland, had decided to come under regime of Poland, so Poland Govt. should fight for such People.

Even now you are not understanding what I meant.

You are only speaking about "Pacts between Governments" but not understanding "People's Intentions who reside in Areas". You are not speaking Democracy, but just forcefully abide to Nation.

I'm not speaking about Aggressiveness of Pakistan might be. But, about Kashmiris. You are deviating it as "National Issue" (like Munich Pact) but fail to address "People's Rights".

You are speaking about "Conversations between Two Nations Possessions", but I am speaking about "Conversation of Two Nations with those Border People, to give them choice to decide where to Join".I'm saying People's choice are not heard but only "National Conditionings" taking Place

Let Pakistan and India and China give Offer to Kashmiris and Arunachal Pradesh, to choose what they want.
Why should Nation decide anything between themselves forcefully without hearing the Rights of the People there?

I'm not speaking about Appearing "Pakistan Leaders" or some other.

I speak about Rights of Kashmiris and Arunachal Pradesh to decide what they want.

Likewise, in Donbas and etc., to decide what they want, whether to join Russia or Ukraine. That's what Elon Musk said too, to conduct Elections under U.N. supervision, so no aggressive forceful means be used both by Russia and Ukraine, and let People in Donbas and other decide where they want to annex.

Viswa_01210 wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 6:17 am I'm not speaking about Appearing "Pakistan Leaders" or some other.

Appease.
I speak not appeasing Putin/Imran Khan/Shebaz Sharif/Hitler/Mussolini,
But Only about "People's Right in Border Areas to decide where to Join".

Viswa_01210 wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 6:44 am

Viswa_01210 wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 6:17 am I'm not speaking about Appearing "Pakistan Leaders" or some other.

Appease.
I speak not appeasing Putin/Imran Khan/Shebaz Sharif/Hitler/Mussolini,
But Only about "People's Right in Border Areas to decide where to Join".

Your country is not always right; however at the least you owe a duty to the society in which you choose to live. Most individuals choose to love their own people among whom they have lived and loved. That is why traitors are punished.

Belindi wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 6:53 am

Viswa_01210 wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 6:44 am

Viswa_01210 wrote: ↑February 25th, 2023, 6:17 am I'm not speaking about Appearing "Pakistan Leaders" or some other.

Appease.
I speak not appeasing Putin/Imran Khan/Shebaz Sharif/Hitler/Mussolini,
But Only about "People's Right in Border Areas to decide where to Join".

Your country is not always right; however at the least you owe a duty to the society in which you choose to live. Most individuals choose to love their own people among whom they have lived and loved. That is why traitors are punished.

The problem is "who Choose"? Is that Choice "Given or Taken"?
Did Kashmiri People in such society was allowed to "Choose"? Did Donbas and Crimea People are allowed to "Choose"?
Are you understanding this?