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By Jacob10
#457162
Consciousness is not an illusion. We experience consciousness states. We are not consciousness as failed atheistic philosophy and its science claims in its unawareness.
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By Sculptor1
#457170
Jacob10 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 3:26 am Consciousness is not an illusion. We experience consciousness states. We are not consciousness as failed atheistic philosophy and its science claims in its unawareness.
This has nothing to do with atheism.
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By Lagayascienza
#457180
Sculptor1 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 7:02 am
Jacob10 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 3:26 am Consciousness is not an illusion. We experience consciousness states. We are not consciousness as failed atheistic philosophy and its science claims in its unawareness.
This has nothing to do with atheism.
That's right. The question of consciousness has nothing to do with atheism. Atheists are as aware and as conscious as anyone, and will likely have a better understanding of consciousness than theists because they are more likely to be acquainted with the science flowing from research into consciousness.

Magnet man will have no idea of what consciousness or atheism are. He will just be guessing and hoping someone will listen. But no one is listening. He needs a Tesla battery he can pug his helmet into at home.
Favorite Philosopher: Hume Nietzsche Location: Antipodes
By Jacob10
#457202
Lagayscienza wrote: March 1st, 2024, 9:39 am
Sculptor1 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 7:02 am
Jacob10 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 3:26 am Consciousness is not an illusion. We experience consciousness states. We are not consciousness as failed atheistic philosophy and its science claims in its unawareness.
This has nothing to do with atheism.
That's right. The question of consciousness has nothing to do with atheism. Atheists are as aware and as conscious as anyone, and will likely have a better understanding of consciousness than theists because they are more likely to be acquainted with the science flowing from research into consciousness.

Magnet man will have no idea of what consciousness or atheism are. He will just be guessing and hoping someone will listen. But no one is listening. He needs a Tesla battery he can pug his helmet into at home.
If you don’t participate in PLAYER science then you won’t understand consciousness Lagascienza. OBSERVER science is of no use to you. You can’t affect the outcome of the game if you are a SPECTATOR.You need to be a PLAYER for that.
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By Sculptor1
#457207
Jacob10 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 8:11 am
Sculptor1 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 7:02 am
Jacob10 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 3:26 am Consciousness is not an illusion. We experience consciousness states. We are not consciousness as failed atheistic philosophy and its science claims in its unawareness.
This has nothing to do with atheism.
How would you know that consciousness has nothing to do with atheism if you know nothing about consciousness and your relationship to it?

You are merely guessing Sculptor1.
You seem to be digging yourself deeper in a hole.
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By Sculptor1
#457208
Lagayscienza wrote: March 1st, 2024, 9:39 am
Sculptor1 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 7:02 am
Jacob10 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 3:26 am Consciousness is not an illusion. We experience consciousness states. We are not consciousness as failed atheistic philosophy and its science claims in its unawareness.
This has nothing to do with atheism.
That's right. The question of consciousness has nothing to do with atheism. Atheists are as aware and as conscious as anyone, and will likely have a better understanding of consciousness than theists because they are more likely to be acquainted with the science flowing from research into consciousness.

Magnet man will have no idea of what consciousness or atheism are. He will just be guessing and hoping someone will listen. But no one is listening. He needs a Tesla battery he can pug his helmet into at home.
"Magnet Man" - I like it!! :D
Let's hope he has plenty of tin foil for his hat.
By Jacob10
#457210
The consciousness experience is something that is controlled or not controlled.If you don’t controlled consciousness, it’s because the individual is unaware.
By Jacob10
#457211
The workings of the cosmos mimic the workings of the physical brain.The physical brain is a biological machine computer processor who’s software is based upon binary code which is produced by electromagnetic vibration as a result of the 4 off electromagnetic forces interactions -/-…-/+……+/-….+/+ which produce the binary code 0/1….0/1…1/0…1/1

The consciousness experience is embroiled within these electromagnetic force interactions.
By Jacob10
#457216
The firings in the brain mimic the firings in the cosmos because all of the sciences are interconnected.These firings within the brain happen at multiple points in varying times scales just as they do in the cosmos.

The single Big Bang and single Big Crunch are made up scientific nonsense derived from the incorrect atheistic philosophy of +=- …. and -=+
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By Sy Borg
#457220
Jacob, if you are going to continue repeating this same line, over and over, your profile will be suspended again.

The constant repetition is tantamount to spam. This is a philosophy forum, not Joshua Jacob's +=- 0/0 magnetic extravaganza. One more post with that gobbledygook and you are toast.

Sure, talk about how the cosmos resembles human brains (why human??) if that's what you think, but PLEASE, no more of this incomprehensible mess ... "electromagnetic vibration as a result of the 4 off electromagnetic forces interactions -/-…-/+……+/-….+/+ which produce the binary code 0/1….0/1…1/0…1/1 "

It's meaningless nonsense that simply pollutes the forum.
By Jacob10
#457232
Sy Borg wrote: March 1st, 2024, 5:56 pm Jacob, if you are going to continue repeating this same line, over and over, your profile will be suspended again.

The constant repetition is tantamount to spam. This is a philosophy forum, not Joshua Jacob's +=- 0/0 magnetic extravaganza. One more post with that gobbledygook and you are toast.

Sure, talk about how the cosmos resembles human brains (why human??) if that's what you think, but PLEASE, no more of this incomprehensible mess ... "electromagnetic vibration as a result of the 4 off electromagnetic forces interactions -/-…-/+……+/-….+/+ which produce the binary code 0/1….0/1…1/0…1/1 "

It's meaningless nonsense that simply pollutes the forum.
Sy Borg,I really don’t mean to upset you but for the record, are you saying that nature doesn’t use vibration as a means of communication? You won’t say no to that surely because you will look foolish. So why do you come on these forums and make foolish statements? How on earth do you think that nature communicates in a meaningful structured way without a binary code foundation for that language? The only means available in nature to produce that binary code is via electromagnetic force interactions. You might claim that what I post is meaningless nonsense in your atheistic ignorance, you can claim whatever you want.You are clearly not that well informed.

I repeat stuff yes, but I slowly add in new information all the time.

My philosophy and science is totally sound my friend and explains the psychological perfectly.because it is thoroughly tried and tested and proven.I wouldn’t post it on the forum otherwise.

I don’t do Observer science because it doesn’t work.Player science works.

How you can believe in the meaningless scientific twaddle that is touted at the moment is beyond me. It’s unsophisticated nonsense, but then I suppose it does suit your belief system agenda doesn’t it?
By Jacob10
#457233
I am telling you the truth Sy Borg when I say it all comes down to whether equal but opposite electromagnetic forces cancel out in nature or not. As they don’t cancel out then atheistic philosophy and science has a big problem now in trying to justify it’s starting philosophy and the science that is founded upon that philosophy.
By LovelyLau
#457235
It could be an illusion.
You could just be sailing through life unaware and wake up one day and realise it was all just floating through and had no point or was a vicious nightmare
Sometimes you feel like you are unconsciously going through each day.
Going through the motions.
Like when does the conscience turn on and when does it switch off..it may alternative between the two.
So if you are conscience every second then that will pretty exhausting.
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By Sy Borg
#457259
I've heard every last parts of those responses many times before. You can't even understand that atheism and science are not the same, despite it being explained to you numerous times. We also explained multiple times that science is not a belief system and is always subject to change, but that also went whistling through the echo chamber between your ears. An AI language model would be less repetitive and more responsive to feedback than you have been. You render discussion pointless.
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