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Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 20th, 2023, 5:56 am
by Belindi
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 19th, 2023, 2:21 am
Sy Borg wrote: February 18th, 2023, 3:46 pm
Some interesting examples here: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... servation/
Place Me as the King. I will take care of that fake One's activities and put in check. :lol:
Just Kidding.

You see, Trees has individual Karmas too. Their Death is not by some other person's activities, but only their own Karma. And so, the Karma of those who burned, is present too. It's a curious cycle which one cannot see with bare eyes. Even the Domination of Scientists, and their huge destruction of Living Beings and Mother Earth, each have Individual Karma and cannot escape from their own deeds, and no other person's actions do affect them, only their own.
No one is responsible for other, but only their own on attachment to actions. Life is worthless and meaningless, just a delusionary playground to play whatever ways one want and suffer according to attachment. The play ground can be renewed Infinite number of times. There is nothing to blame on People or Traditions or Fake Ones or Scientists or Science or etc.

If you have desires, go and enjoy and suffer in this delusionary playground.
If not,
Just Seek GOD/Truth/ME and do everything as a Duty without attachment to any actions, and not blaming anyone/anything and remain Peaceful Always Unaffected by any. Nothing more to say.
This is all very well but how do apply it to politics? We all want a "rightful king" but how do you find him and place him as ruler?

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 20th, 2023, 7:00 am
by Viswa_01210
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 5:56 am
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 19th, 2023, 2:21 am
Sy Borg wrote: February 18th, 2023, 3:46 pm
Some interesting examples here: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... servation/
Place Me as the King. I will take care of that fake One's activities and put in check. :lol:
Just Kidding.

You see, Trees has individual Karmas too. Their Death is not by some other person's activities, but only their own Karma. And so, the Karma of those who burned, is present too. It's a curious cycle which one cannot see with bare eyes. Even the Domination of Scientists, and their huge destruction of Living Beings and Mother Earth, each have Individual Karma and cannot escape from their own deeds, and no other person's actions do affect them, only their own.
No one is responsible for other, but only their own on attachment to actions. Life is worthless and meaningless, just a delusionary playground to play whatever ways one want and suffer according to attachment. The play ground can be renewed Infinite number of times. There is nothing to blame on People or Traditions or Fake Ones or Scientists or Science or etc.

If you have desires, go and enjoy and suffer in this delusionary playground.
If not,
Just Seek GOD/Truth/ME and do everything as a Duty without attachment to any actions, and not blaming anyone/anything and remain Peaceful Always Unaffected by any. Nothing more to say.
This is all very well but how do apply it to politics? We all want a "rightful king" but how do you find him and place him as ruler?
Two ways. One, this mentality should be there in majority. That, not gonna happen now, as people don't need such "rightful king" but only need money to satisfy their needs, and place a king according to that. If such mentality arises within majority, then such person will surely be found out.

But, there is a second way. He should possess Astonishing Eight Siddhi powers (Anima, Mahima, etc.), to stand against these Politicians and Businessmen.

Only these two, and no other.

If you want to change this world, you yourself can become that rightful King by seeking such Eight Siddhis with huge penance, and achieve it and fight against these Uncompassionate Selfish Hyena as a Solo Lion (I will help with my capabilities too and be your side), and bring back the True Religion.

But, you see, there is no need of desiring to change this world for me. This is time for Evil to take upper hand. You have seen the Male Dominated Power, Greed, Ego, but not yet Female/Feminism's Dark side, and just watch that Female Dominated, Greed, etc., too.
Even if you do penance, you cannot achieve it now, and when you achieve that, many centuries would have been surpassed. That Power will be Blessed to you, only when People are deserved for such Ruler. As of now, in my view, People are not deserved for it, as they really don't need such, and much Bad Karmas to be experienced. That is called Kali Yuga.

Just Seek GOD. GOD will take care what to be done, and what not, and watch over that everything happens everywhere at proper time.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 20th, 2023, 2:18 pm
by Belindi
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 20th, 2023, 7:00 am
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 5:56 am
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 19th, 2023, 2:21 am
Sy Borg wrote: February 18th, 2023, 3:46 pm
Some interesting examples here: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... servation/
Place Me as the King. I will take care of that fake One's activities and put in check. :lol:
Just Kidding.

You see, Trees has individual Karmas too. Their Death is not by some other person's activities, but only their own Karma. And so, the Karma of those who burned, is present too. It's a curious cycle which one cannot see with bare eyes. Even the Domination of Scientists, and their huge destruction of Living Beings and Mother Earth, each have Individual Karma and cannot escape from their own deeds, and no other person's actions do affect them, only their own.
No one is responsible for other, but only their own on attachment to actions. Life is worthless and meaningless, just a delusionary playground to play whatever ways one want and suffer according to attachment. The play ground can be renewed Infinite number of times. There is nothing to blame on People or Traditions or Fake Ones or Scientists or Science or etc.

If you have desires, go and enjoy and suffer in this delusionary playground.
If not,
Just Seek GOD/Truth/ME and do everything as a Duty without attachment to any actions, and not blaming anyone/anything and remain Peaceful Always Unaffected by any. Nothing more to say.
This is all very well but how do apply it to politics? We all want a "rightful king" but how do you find him and place him as ruler?
Two ways. One, this mentality should be there in majority. That, not gonna happen now, as people don't need such "rightful king" but only need money to satisfy their needs, and place a king according to that. If such mentality arises within majority, then such person will surely be found out.

But, there is a second way. He should possess Astonishing Eight Siddhi powers (Anima, Mahima, etc.), to stand against these Politicians and Businessmen.

Only these two, and no other.

If you want to change this world, you yourself can become that rightful King by seeking such Eight Siddhis with huge penance, and achieve it and fight against these Uncompassionate Selfish Hyena as a Solo Lion (I will help with my capabilities too and be your side), and bring back the True Religion.

But, you see, there is no need of desiring to change this world for me. This is time for Evil to take upper hand. You have seen the Male Dominated Power, Greed, Ego, but not yet Female/Feminism's Dark side, and just watch that Female Dominated, Greed, etc., too.
Even if you do penance, you cannot achieve it now, and when you achieve that, many centuries would have been surpassed. That Power will be Blessed to you, only when People are deserved for such Ruler. As of now, in my view, People are not deserved for it, as they really don't need such, and much Bad Karmas to be experienced. That is called Kali Yuga.

Just Seek GOD. GOD will take care what to be done, and what not, and watch over that everything happens everywhere at proper time.
Thanks for your positive answer. One final question: how can an ordinary citizen make sure that the would-be ruler is a Siddhi? Popular consciousness is such that easy solutions are sought. Siddhi training takes a lot of time, faith, and effort.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 20th, 2023, 2:20 pm
by Belindi
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 5:56 am
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 19th, 2023, 2:21 am
Sy Borg wrote: February 18th, 2023, 3:46 pm
Some interesting examples here: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... servation/
Place Me as the King. I will take care of that fake One's activities and put in check. :lol:
Just Kidding.

You see, Trees has individual Karmas too. Their Death is not by some other person's activities, but only their own Karma. And so, the Karma of those who burned, is present too. It's a curious cycle which one cannot see with bare eyes. Even the Domination of Scientists, and their huge destruction of Living Beings and Mother Earth, each have Individual Karma and cannot escape from their own deeds, and no other person's actions do affect them, only their own.
No one is responsible for other, but only their own on attachment to actions. Life is worthless and meaningless, just a delusionary playground to play whatever ways one want and suffer according to attachment. The play ground can be renewed Infinite number of times. There is nothing to blame on People or Traditions or Fake Ones or Scientists or Science or etc.

If you have desires, go and enjoy and suffer in this delusionary playground.
If not,
Just Seek GOD/Truth/ME and do everything as a Duty without attachment to any actions, and not blaming anyone/anything and remain Peaceful Always Unaffected by any. Nothing more to say.
This is all very well but how do apply it to politics? We all want a "rightful king" but how do you find him and place him as ruler? We already know that charlatans and other arrogant persons do a lot of damage.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 20th, 2023, 2:23 pm
by Belindi
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 5:56 am
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 19th, 2023, 2:21 am
Sy Borg wrote: February 18th, 2023, 3:46 pm
Some interesting examples here: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... servation/
Place Me as the King. I will take care of that fake One's activities and put in check. :lol:
Just Kidding.

You see, Trees has individual Karmas too. Their Death is not by some other person's activities, but only their own Karma. And so, the Karma of those who burned, is present too. It's a curious cycle which one cannot see with bare eyes. Even the Domination of Scientists, and their huge destruction of Living Beings and Mother Earth, each have Individual Karma and cannot escape from their own deeds, and no other person's actions do affect them, only their own.
No one is responsible for other, but only their own on attachment to actions. Life is worthless and meaningless, just a delusionary playground to play whatever ways one want and suffer according to attachment. The play ground can be renewed Infinite number of times. There is nothing to blame on People or Traditions or Fake Ones or Scientists or Science or etc.

If you have desires, go and enjoy and suffer in this delusionary playground.
If not,
Just Seek GOD/Truth/ME and do everything as a Duty without attachment to any actions, and not blaming anyone/anything and remain Peaceful Always Unaffected by any. Nothing more to say.
This is all very well but how do apply it to politics? We all want a "rightful king" but how do you find him and place him as ruler? We already know that charlatans and other arrogant persons do a lot of damage.
Popular consciousness is such that easy solutions are sought. Siddhi training takes a lot of time, faith, and effort.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 20th, 2023, 9:32 pm
by Viswa_01210
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 2:18 pm
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 20th, 2023, 7:00 am
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 5:56 am
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 19th, 2023, 2:21 am

Place Me as the King. I will take care of that fake One's activities and put in check. :lol:
Just Kidding.

You see, Trees has individual Karmas too. Their Death is not by some other person's activities, but only their own Karma. And so, the Karma of those who burned, is present too. It's a curious cycle which one cannot see with bare eyes. Even the Domination of Scientists, and their huge destruction of Living Beings and Mother Earth, each have Individual Karma and cannot escape from their own deeds, and no other person's actions do affect them, only their own.
No one is responsible for other, but only their own on attachment to actions. Life is worthless and meaningless, just a delusionary playground to play whatever ways one want and suffer according to attachment. The play ground can be renewed Infinite number of times. There is nothing to blame on People or Traditions or Fake Ones or Scientists or Science or etc.

If you have desires, go and enjoy and suffer in this delusionary playground.
If not,
Just Seek GOD/Truth/ME and do everything as a Duty without attachment to any actions, and not blaming anyone/anything and remain Peaceful Always Unaffected by any. Nothing more to say.
This is all very well but how do apply it to politics? We all want a "rightful king" but how do you find him and place him as ruler?
Two ways. One, this mentality should be there in majority. That, not gonna happen now, as people don't need such "rightful king" but only need money to satisfy their needs, and place a king according to that. If such mentality arises within majority, then such person will surely be found out.

But, there is a second way. He should possess Astonishing Eight Siddhi powers (Anima, Mahima, etc.), to stand against these Politicians and Businessmen.

Only these two, and no other.

If you want to change this world, you yourself can become that rightful King by seeking such Eight Siddhis with huge penance, and achieve it and fight against these Uncompassionate Selfish Hyena as a Solo Lion (I will help with my capabilities too and be your side), and bring back the True Religion.

But, you see, there is no need of desiring to change this world for me. This is time for Evil to take upper hand. You have seen the Male Dominated Power, Greed, Ego, but not yet Female/Feminism's Dark side, and just watch that Female Dominated, Greed, etc., too.
Even if you do penance, you cannot achieve it now, and when you achieve that, many centuries would have been surpassed. That Power will be Blessed to you, only when People are deserved for such Ruler. As of now, in my view, People are not deserved for it, as they really don't need such, and much Bad Karmas to be experienced. That is called Kali Yuga.

Just Seek GOD. GOD will take care what to be done, and what not, and watch over that everything happens everywhere at proper time.
Thanks for your positive answer. One final question: how can an ordinary citizen make sure that the would-be ruler is a Siddhi? Popular consciousness is such that easy solutions are sought. Siddhi training takes a lot of time, faith, and effort.
Yeah, Siddhi training takes a lot of Effort, etc., and so no need for such training. If One seeks GOD and Enlightens, GOD will make sure that to bless with such Siddhi power, if the world/people need such king.
The people can come to know only by Good Karma and Faith. There were only 12 followers for Jesus in such a big number, and many only offended and crucified him because of their Non-faith,etc.

It's nothing to do with it. You see, People must be deserved. Their Past actions, present desires must be taken into account for results and Vision.
I know you love people a lot. But, People don't love People all a lot like you. Many are "Egoistic" and want to be that way, so why to curb their desires? They are free to desire what they want for themselves in this world, as much as you have. You possess Good thoughts, very much appreciable. But, it won't work out or bring into action, until people truly deserve it and need it seriously for themselves and around. Only then a New Religion reformation can come up, to make one to reach "God" in a new way in a vast/majority.

So, I suggest, not to change people or try to bring what is Good for them, but only let People free to go with what they want in majority. While going through it, they will surely meet tremendous sufferings, and will learn from it. So, let them go through it but not try to change world before that, and first of all we reach GOD like Ramana, Saints, Buddha, etc., by being not attached to any action of world and Life itself. After reaching God, God will bless us with what must be done, and then let one do it as a duty. He may bless with Inaction like Ramana (not make change in world). He may bless with action like Jesus and Mohammed (to bring new way of living). Whatever he may bless with, is what people deserved. Let them be free.
But, if you want to live in Goodness, I suggest to go to Himalayas or Deeply Spiritual/Religious oriented place and be settled there.

God knows what to do and when to do and whom to do, and we don't have to decide it for the people but only to leave them with a free place like God left.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 21st, 2023, 12:33 am
by Sy Borg
This is just preaching, which is not allowed on the forum.

Nothing about the question in the OP, just online missionary work, looking for converts.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 21st, 2023, 2:37 am
by Viswa_01210
Sy Borg wrote: February 21st, 2023, 12:33 am This is just preaching, which is not allowed on the forum.

Nothing about the question in the OP, just online missionary work, looking for converts.
Converts?? :lol: :mrgreen: :D Why would I need such? Please let me know.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 21st, 2023, 5:01 am
by Sy Borg
So why are you preaching?

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 21st, 2023, 5:14 am
by Belindi
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 20th, 2023, 9:32 pm
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 2:18 pm
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 20th, 2023, 7:00 am
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 5:56 am

This is all very well but how do apply it to politics? We all want a "rightful king" but how do you find him and place him as ruler?
Two ways. One, this mentality should be there in majority. That, not gonna happen now, as people don't need such "rightful king" but only need money to satisfy their needs, and place a king according to that. If such mentality arises within majority, then such person will surely be found out.

But, there is a second way. He should possess Astonishing Eight Siddhi powers (Anima, Mahima, etc.), to stand against these Politicians and Businessmen.

Only these two, and no other.

If you want to change this world, you yourself can become that rightful King by seeking such Eight Siddhis with huge penance, and achieve it and fight against these Uncompassionate Selfish Hyena as a Solo Lion (I will help with my capabilities too and be your side), and bring back the True Religion.

But, you see, there is no need of desiring to change this world for me. This is time for Evil to take upper hand. You have seen the Male Dominated Power, Greed, Ego, but not yet Female/Feminism's Dark side, and just watch that Female Dominated, Greed, etc., too.
Even if you do penance, you cannot achieve it now, and when you achieve that, many centuries would have been surpassed. That Power will be Blessed to you, only when People are deserved for such Ruler. As of now, in my view, People are not deserved for it, as they really don't need such, and much Bad Karmas to be experienced. That is called Kali Yuga.

Just Seek GOD. GOD will take care what to be done, and what not, and watch over that everything happens everywhere at proper time.
Thanks for your positive answer. One final question: how can an ordinary citizen make sure that the would-be ruler is a Siddhi? Popular consciousness is such that easy solutions are sought. Siddhi training takes a lot of time, faith, and effort.
Yeah, Siddhi training takes a lot of Effort, etc., and so no need for such training. If One seeks GOD and Enlightens, GOD will make sure that to bless with such Siddhi power, if the world/people need such king.
The people can come to know only by Good Karma and Faith. There were only 12 followers for Jesus in such a big number, and many only offended and crucified him because of their Non-faith,etc.

It's nothing to do with it. You see, People must be deserved. Their Past actions, present desires must be taken into account for results and Vision.
I know you love people a lot. But, People don't love People all a lot like you. Many are "Egoistic" and want to be that way, so why to curb their desires? They are free to desire what they want for themselves in this world, as much as you have. You possess Good thoughts, very much appreciable. But, it won't work out or bring into action, until people truly deserve it and need it seriously for themselves and around. Only then a New Religion reformation can come up, to make one to reach "God" in a new way in a vast/majority.

So, I suggest, not to change people or try to bring what is Good for them, but only let People free to go with what they want in majority. While going through it, they will surely meet tremendous sufferings, and will learn from it. So, let them go through it but not try to change world before that, and first of all we reach GOD like Ramana, Saints, Buddha, etc., by being not attached to any action of world and Life itself. After reaching God, God will bless us with what must be done, and then let one do it as a duty. He may bless with Inaction like Ramana (not make change in world). He may bless with action like Jesus and Mohammed (to bring new way of living). Whatever he may bless with, is what people deserved. Let them be free.
But, if you want to live in Goodness, I suggest to go to Himalayas or Deeply Spiritual/Religious oriented place and be settled there.

God knows what to do and when to do and whom to do, and we don't have to decide it for the people but only to leave them with a free place like God left.
I respect real Siddhis. I love the transcendent virtues. But I don't agree with you that God intervenes in history.
Karma is a bad explanation for human wickedness, because Karma is a doctrine of punishment and reward. Karma fails to make sense in the face of the earthquake in Turkey and Syria.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 21st, 2023, 7:12 am
by Viswa_01210
Belindi wrote: February 21st, 2023, 5:14 am
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 20th, 2023, 9:32 pm
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 2:18 pm
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 20th, 2023, 7:00 am

Two ways. One, this mentality should be there in majority. That, not gonna happen now, as people don't need such "rightful king" but only need money to satisfy their needs, and place a king according to that. If such mentality arises within majority, then such person will surely be found out.

But, there is a second way. He should possess Astonishing Eight Siddhi powers (Anima, Mahima, etc.), to stand against these Politicians and Businessmen.

Only these two, and no other.

If you want to change this world, you yourself can become that rightful King by seeking such Eight Siddhis with huge penance, and achieve it and fight against these Uncompassionate Selfish Hyena as a Solo Lion (I will help with my capabilities too and be your side), and bring back the True Religion.

But, you see, there is no need of desiring to change this world for me. This is time for Evil to take upper hand. You have seen the Male Dominated Power, Greed, Ego, but not yet Female/Feminism's Dark side, and just watch that Female Dominated, Greed, etc., too.
Even if you do penance, you cannot achieve it now, and when you achieve that, many centuries would have been surpassed. That Power will be Blessed to you, only when People are deserved for such Ruler. As of now, in my view, People are not deserved for it, as they really don't need such, and much Bad Karmas to be experienced. That is called Kali Yuga.

Just Seek GOD. GOD will take care what to be done, and what not, and watch over that everything happens everywhere at proper time.
Thanks for your positive answer. One final question: how can an ordinary citizen make sure that the would-be ruler is a Siddhi? Popular consciousness is such that easy solutions are sought. Siddhi training takes a lot of time, faith, and effort.
Yeah, Siddhi training takes a lot of Effort, etc., and so no need for such training. If One seeks GOD and Enlightens, GOD will make sure that to bless with such Siddhi power, if the world/people need such king.
The people can come to know only by Good Karma and Faith. There were only 12 followers for Jesus in such a big number, and many only offended and crucified him because of their Non-faith,etc.

It's nothing to do with it. You see, People must be deserved. Their Past actions, present desires must be taken into account for results and Vision.
I know you love people a lot. But, People don't love People all a lot like you. Many are "Egoistic" and want to be that way, so why to curb their desires? They are free to desire what they want for themselves in this world, as much as you have. You possess Good thoughts, very much appreciable. But, it won't work out or bring into action, until people truly deserve it and need it seriously for themselves and around. Only then a New Religion reformation can come up, to make one to reach "God" in a new way in a vast/majority.

So, I suggest, not to change people or try to bring what is Good for them, but only let People free to go with what they want in majority. While going through it, they will surely meet tremendous sufferings, and will learn from it. So, let them go through it but not try to change world before that, and first of all we reach GOD like Ramana, Saints, Buddha, etc., by being not attached to any action of world and Life itself. After reaching God, God will bless us with what must be done, and then let one do it as a duty. He may bless with Inaction like Ramana (not make change in world). He may bless with action like Jesus and Mohammed (to bring new way of living). Whatever he may bless with, is what people deserved. Let them be free.
But, if you want to live in Goodness, I suggest to go to Himalayas or Deeply Spiritual/Religious oriented place and be settled there.

God knows what to do and when to do and whom to do, and we don't have to decide it for the people but only to leave them with a free place like God left.
I respect real Siddhis. I love the transcendent virtues. But I don't agree with you that God intervenes in history.
Karma is a bad explanation for human wickedness, because Karma is a doctrine of punishment and reward. Karma fails to make sense in the face of the earthquake in Turkey and Syria.
It truly makes sense wherever it shall be. Do you want to see the past actions of those 50,000 people who dead in Turkey and Syria, and suffering in Lakhs there without necessities?
Seek Siddhi named "trikālajñatvam" and "para citta ādi abhijñatā". You can know what kind of karma they did to undergo this.
There is just "ONE", and it's individualized ignorant actions only can affect itself as effect.

God never intervenes, true. I never said God intervenes. I said, God will take care and always takes care. There are Beings who are in positions, do their duty in fear of God as God watch like a Supervisor that the Employees are working as they have to, and everyone does it rightfully including Satan.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 21st, 2023, 7:13 am
by Viswa_01210
Sy Borg wrote: February 21st, 2023, 5:01 am So why are you preaching?
Preaching? Why would I preach someone? Please let me know.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 21st, 2023, 7:22 am
by Viswa_01210
Belindi wrote: February 21st, 2023, 5:14 am I respect real Siddhis. I love the transcendent virtues. But I don't agree with you that God intervenes in history.
Karma is a bad explanation for human wickedness, because Karma is a doctrine of punishment and reward. Karma fails to make sense in the face of the earthquake in Turkey and Syria.
One human wickedness cannot affect another. If I wish to harm Buddha/Jesus/Ramana/Ramakrishna/ even True Aspirants in Devotional/any with a sword/Gun/poison by my wickedness, they cannot be harmed unless they have their own Karma to undergo such.
You are just Generalising but failing to see "specific" in topic of Karma. Karma is a Specific Individual Oneself topic, but not General.

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 21st, 2023, 8:20 am
by Belindi
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 21st, 2023, 7:12 am
Belindi wrote: February 21st, 2023, 5:14 am
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 20th, 2023, 9:32 pm
Belindi wrote: February 20th, 2023, 2:18 pm
Thanks for your positive answer. One final question: how can an ordinary citizen make sure that the would-be ruler is a Siddhi? Popular consciousness is such that easy solutions are sought. Siddhi training takes a lot of time, faith, and effort.
Yeah, Siddhi training takes a lot of Effort, etc., and so no need for such training. If One seeks GOD and Enlightens, GOD will make sure that to bless with such Siddhi power, if the world/people need such king.
The people can come to know only by Good Karma and Faith. There were only 12 followers for Jesus in such a big number, and many only offended and crucified him because of their Non-faith,etc.

It's nothing to do with it. You see, People must be deserved. Their Past actions, present desires must be taken into account for results and Vision.
I know you love people a lot. But, People don't love People all a lot like you. Many are "Egoistic" and want to be that way, so why to curb their desires? They are free to desire what they want for themselves in this world, as much as you have. You possess Good thoughts, very much appreciable. But, it won't work out or bring into action, until people truly deserve it and need it seriously for themselves and around. Only then a New Religion reformation can come up, to make one to reach "God" in a new way in a vast/majority.

So, I suggest, not to change people or try to bring what is Good for them, but only let People free to go with what they want in majority. While going through it, they will surely meet tremendous sufferings, and will learn from it. So, let them go through it but not try to change world before that, and first of all we reach GOD like Ramana, Saints, Buddha, etc., by being not attached to any action of world and Life itself. After reaching God, God will bless us with what must be done, and then let one do it as a duty. He may bless with Inaction like Ramana (not make change in world). He may bless with action like Jesus and Mohammed (to bring new way of living). Whatever he may bless with, is what people deserved. Let them be free.
But, if you want to live in Goodness, I suggest to go to Himalayas or Deeply Spiritual/Religious oriented place and be settled there.

God knows what to do and when to do and whom to do, and we don't have to decide it for the people but only to leave them with a free place like God left.
I respect real Siddhis. I love the transcendent virtues. But I don't agree with you that God intervenes in history.
Karma is a bad explanation for human wickedness, because Karma is a doctrine of punishment and reward. Karma fails to make sense in the face of the earthquake in Turkey and Syria.
It truly makes sense wherever it shall be. Do you want to see the past actions of those 50,000 people who dead in Turkey and Syria, and suffering in Lakhs there without necessities?
Seek Siddhi named "trikālajñatvam" and "para citta ādi abhijñatā". You can know what kind of karma they did to undergo this.
There is just "ONE", and it's individualized ignorant actions only can affect itself as effect.

God never intervenes, true. I never said God intervenes. I said, God will take care and always takes care. There are Beings who are in positions, do their duty in fear of God as God watch like a Supervisor that the Employees are working as they have to, and everyone does it rightfully including Satan.
Whether God intervenes in history occasionally or constantly ,that He intervenes at all is an absurd personification of God. God is a human idea. Satan is a human idea. Satan did well to tempt Eve out of Eden.

No wonder that you want to restrict women to non-political activities!

Re: How Do You Understand the Idea of 'God'?

Posted: February 21st, 2023, 9:21 am
by Viswa_01210
Belindi wrote: February 21st, 2023, 8:20 am
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 21st, 2023, 7:12 am
Belindi wrote: February 21st, 2023, 5:14 am
Viswa_01210 wrote: February 20th, 2023, 9:32 pm

Yeah, Siddhi training takes a lot of Effort, etc., and so no need for such training. If One seeks GOD and Enlightens, GOD will make sure that to bless with such Siddhi power, if the world/people need such king.
The people can come to know only by Good Karma and Faith. There were only 12 followers for Jesus in such a big number, and many only offended and crucified him because of their Non-faith,etc.

It's nothing to do with it. You see, People must be deserved. Their Past actions, present desires must be taken into account for results and Vision.
I know you love people a lot. But, People don't love People all a lot like you. Many are "Egoistic" and want to be that way, so why to curb their desires? They are free to desire what they want for themselves in this world, as much as you have. You possess Good thoughts, very much appreciable. But, it won't work out or bring into action, until people truly deserve it and need it seriously for themselves and around. Only then a New Religion reformation can come up, to make one to reach "God" in a new way in a vast/majority.

So, I suggest, not to change people or try to bring what is Good for them, but only let People free to go with what they want in majority. While going through it, they will surely meet tremendous sufferings, and will learn from it. So, let them go through it but not try to change world before that, and first of all we reach GOD like Ramana, Saints, Buddha, etc., by being not attached to any action of world and Life itself. After reaching God, God will bless us with what must be done, and then let one do it as a duty. He may bless with Inaction like Ramana (not make change in world). He may bless with action like Jesus and Mohammed (to bring new way of living). Whatever he may bless with, is what people deserved. Let them be free.
But, if you want to live in Goodness, I suggest to go to Himalayas or Deeply Spiritual/Religious oriented place and be settled there.

God knows what to do and when to do and whom to do, and we don't have to decide it for the people but only to leave them with a free place like God left.
I respect real Siddhis. I love the transcendent virtues. But I don't agree with you that God intervenes in history.
Karma is a bad explanation for human wickedness, because Karma is a doctrine of punishment and reward. Karma fails to make sense in the face of the earthquake in Turkey and Syria.
It truly makes sense wherever it shall be. Do you want to see the past actions of those 50,000 people who dead in Turkey and Syria, and suffering in Lakhs there without necessities?
Seek Siddhi named "trikālajñatvam" and "para citta ādi abhijñatā". You can know what kind of karma they did to undergo this.
There is just "ONE", and it's individualized ignorant actions only can affect itself as effect.

God never intervenes, true. I never said God intervenes. I said, God will take care and always takes care. There are Beings who are in positions, do their duty in fear of God as God watch like a Supervisor that the Employees are working as they have to, and everyone does it rightfully including Satan.
Whether God intervenes in history occasionally or constantly ,that He intervenes at all is an absurd personification of God. God is a human idea. Satan is a human idea. Satan did well to tempt Eve out of Eden.

No wonder that you want to restrict women to non-political activities!
I didn't restrict. Let them involve involve in political. They must involve. But, they should involve in it by remaining in hom by suggesting their husbands what is right to do,etc. And this too, not my own want, but the religious insight to keep society peaceful and not men get distracted in work by woman's body. In work, mostly, Men involve much of their thoughts only in seducing and make woman fall unto them, and some woman do that too, and involvement in work gets reduced.

Let Male Sex work out, and Female Sex work in, and so Society be involved in Work to reach God/Truth/Peace.

Fall Of Eve, is not by Satan, but of herself not respecting God's words and faith. Her lose of Faith, is not a blame upon Satan.