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Greta wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 7:00 pm

Sculptor1 wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 12:39 pm
The slingerland is probably from the 1970s, a nice woody sound, with a smaller that usual bass drum.
I looked at Yamaha's and Rolands when I bought my V-drums. The Roland won hands down because the heads are made of mesh, which allows for give that the rubber kits do not.
When recording I tended to use the V drums to the drums sounds but had my Ziljdans, espacially the 20" ride for the beauty of the sound which the machine could not possibly imitate.
Not heard of gurus; they look nice.

The Gurus were my retirement present to myself. Rolands feel better to play because of the mesh heads (a bass drum on a T20 felt better than any real bass drum I'd played). But, for the price, the Yammies had a better range of sound IMO. Roland always charged a bomb. Interesting that Roland have been the biggest drum manufacturer for some years now, selling more an any acoustic drum manufacturer. Before populations grew to our current unsustainable levels, many more people lived far enough from each other to be able to practice acoustic musical instruments without too much drama with neighbours. Now that the growing hordes have been crammed together, lifestyles have been diminished for all but cosmopolitan socialite types.

Papus79 wrote:Manchester's been blowing up in terms of talent for the past decade or so with both rap and neosoul. Where it hooks me is they all seem to be Dilla fans so it's mostly real classy 'golden era' moulded.

Interesting. Being hopelessly out of touch, I don't know what it means for something to be "real classy 'golden era' moulded". And I don't know Dilla. But cool.

Since the late 70's, through the Hacienda era, Joy Division, The Smiths and on to the "Madchester" of The Happy Mondays and Oasis, I guess Manchester has been a hub of British music. Took the baton from Liverpool I guess.

Joy Division Oven Gloves

Sculptor1 wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 5:14 am

Greta wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 7:00 pm
The Gurus were my retirement present to myself. Rolands feel better to play because of the mesh heads (a bass drum on a T20 felt better than any real bass drum I'd played). But, for the price, the Yammies had a better range of sound IMO. Roland always charged a bomb. Interesting that Roland have been the biggest drum manufacturer for some years now, selling more an any acoustic drum manufacturer. Before populations grew to our current unsustainable levels, many more people lived far enough from each other to be able to practice acoustic musical instruments without too much drama with neighbours. Now that the growing hordes have been crammed together, lifestyles have been diminished for all but cosmopolitan socialite types.

:)

All roads lead to Rome :)

Uncle Frank, blending social commentary with great music Some trivia: In an interview, Phil Collins said that his famous drum fill in In the Air Tonight was based on Chester Thompson's fill in Trouble Every Day, and he ended up hiring Chester Thompson for his band, who played with him for years.

Greta wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 6:48 pm

Sculptor1 wrote: ↑July 12th, 2020, 5:14 am

All roads lead to Rome

I have a difficult relationship with FZ. At one part in my life I was, for the first and last time, unfaithful to a woman I loved. I ended up with the other woman who introduced me to Joe's Garage whilst I was deeply hurting.
Every time since then when I hear those plaintive chords I am dragged back almost physically to that time of shame and mourning, when I was trying to use FZ comedy to help me out of my self inflicted situation.
This song has that same sort of tone.
On a brighter note F heard before that time and at some time after can be accessible without the emotional rollercoaster.
City of Tiny Lights - wow first heard in the OGWT - with that clay animation. Brilliant.
And my all time favourite Zappa song - Inca Roads.

My partner and I saw "baby" Zappa as we called him at the Brighton Centre a couple of years ago.
Dweezil Zappa Is really a chip off the old block and covered his dad's material really well, almost seamlessly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqp71DOJ3aY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZRNPUmwAOY

Shame about the association, Sculptor. For the record, I didn't much care for Joe's Garage, which I found rather sterile and bitter.

I like your choices of FZ songs. I'm also especially keen on The Grand Wazoo album, One Size Fits All and Roxy & Elsewhere, and Hot Rats is pretty fine too.

I saw Dweezil when he came out here. Enjoyable, but my favourite of his bands was this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Jz4UH2_8U. To be fair, the venue they played at is a musical mausoleum IMO, capable of reducing the finest of sounds to a boomy mush. Not even Steely Dan sounded good in there.

Time to piss everybody off with some classical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuW_T3RP1TE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRNwkdJQ3vo

aka. 4 Hero:

Papus79 wrote: ↑July 15th, 2020, 7:25 am aka. 4 Hero:

I suppose if you have absolutely nothing to distinguish you from the plethora of other purveyors of this sort of (ahem!) music, then breach copyright to get your name noticed is some sort of policy that might work.

Jklint wrote: ↑July 15th, 2020, 5:59 am Time to piss everybody off with some classical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuW_T3RP1TE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRNwkdJQ3vo

Whilst I do not regard the March as the highest musical form, Beethoven is the peerless master of the Classical genre.

Greta wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 8:06 am Shame about the association, Sculptor. For the record, I didn't much care for Joe's Garage, which I found rather sterile and bitter.

I like your choices of FZ songs. I'm also especially keen on The Grand Wazoo album, One Size Fits All and Roxy & Elsewhere, and Hot Rats is pretty fine too.

I saw Dweezil when he came out here. Enjoyable, but my favourite of his bands was this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Jz4UH2_8U. To be fair, the venue they played at is a musical mausoleum IMO, capable of reducing the finest of sounds to a boomy mush. Not even Steely Dan sounded good in there.

I think it was the same tour; Zappa plays Zappa. Not the exact line up maybe.
But seriously the Brighton Centre is pretty sterile. The Dome, though smaller has better acoustics, and more intimate.