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[Dewey]

Repeating it in bold doesn't make it any more true, or any more supported, Scott. I've given several specific examples to make my case. Now, if you can, give me an example of an explicitly pro-Christian major movie from hollywood in the past 20 years? I've given you many examples of anti-Bush, anti-iraq war movies; please give me some examples of pro-Bush, pro-Iraq war movies from hollywood.

The same psychological argument you presented can be made against your position, so leaving vague appeals to psychology aside, please provide some specific examples to make your rebuttal.

[Dewey]

Repeating it in bold doesn't make it any more true, or any more supported, Scott. I've given several specific examples to make my case. Now, if you can, give me an example of an explicitly pro-Christian major movie from hollywood in the past 20 years? I've given you many examples of anti-Bush, anti-iraq war movies; please give me some examples of pro-Bush, pro-Iraq war movies from hollywood.

The same psychological argument you presented can be made against your position, so leaving vague appeals to psychology aside, please provide some specific examples to make your rebuttal.

[Admiral usher]

Once again, answer this question: if it's all about money, why didn't Hollywood start remaking Bible epics after the huge success of "The Passion of the Christ"?

Why didn't they start remaking disaster-at-sea movies after the success of Titanic?

Most of these articles are so old I don't know which one to respond to.Anyway i will put my two Sense in (smelling and tasting)LOL
This forum is supposed to be a discussion of aesthetics so I don't see where all this stuff fits into that catagory.
Nevertheless it is an interesting on going dialogue but awfully old.
One comment I would like to make is that if we pick on corporations then we must pick on ourselves.Corporations are run by people 'right'? Whats so specialy evil about those that run corporations? Nothing,we are all like that
If that is true then we should remember we are discribing ourselves so if you don't want to be looking in a mirror be careful about who you criticize

Corporations do both nasty and good things.Corporations are an easy element to pick on because we are attacking a fictious name.We are not picking on an individual.
Well perhaps sometimes we allude to individuals who may be not nice and also to those who are nice but it is much easier and less risky to attack an invisible identity.

Is there any underlying inuendoes in Scotts depiction of Hollywood to things like the Jews running Hollywood and putting all their nasty propaganda upon the people?

I sort of sniff something like that or the nonsense just runs on.

Admiral Usher

[MisterSlogra]

Many popular movies have a subtle preference for Christianity because it's the unofficial preference of adult American audiences. If you examine popular media, the word religion is interchangeable with Christianity; there may be respect for other religions but the subtext is that they are "fringe faiths."

People like to see movies with Christian values because it makes them feel comfortable. People like to see movies that glorify the American (and supposedly Christian) social norms, that empathize with the common man trying to live a decent life.

Large corporations are used to represent corruption or cruelty. But it is a transient convenience because some movies depict corporations as a necessary part of the American life.

Ironically, movies with "Christian values" are in decline because Hollywood is putting out movies with a decidedly existentialist and postmodernist slant. This is because the younger audiences do not care for Christian rhetoric and it leaves a bad taste in their mouth.

Really, the Hollywood system exploits the superficiality of its audiences and manipulates value systems wherever it is convenient.

[Sir Percival]

What you believe affects your perception. People usually want to see their position as the underdog, the one being treated unjustly (or at least not as the oppressor). This is evident on both sides of this discussion.

Artists and businessmen tend to be two fundamentally different types, so some animosity between them is to be expected. Artists are often also more innovative and opposed to tradition.