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Sushan wrote: July 9th, 2024, 6:19 am
Samana Johann wrote: June 29th, 2024, 7:47 pm
Sushan wrote:
Samana Johann wrote: People at large are orphans without knowing their relation, children or unknown consume provider running crazy and frustrated, no idea whom the owe obligation to and where they fall in debt. Hardly anybody today has "real" parents, teacher, but re-lay on unknown.
Samana Johann wrote: Simply perfect de-generation.
It’s true that in our increasingly digital world, we often turn to technology for guidance and support, sometimes at the expense of real, meaningful relationships with parents, teachers, and mentors. In reflecting on your point about "real" parents and teachers, it’s clear that fostering genuine, face-to-face interactions is crucial for emotional and social development. The digital age has certainly brought about a form of "de-generation" where traditional values and relationships may feel diluted.

However, I believe that technology, when used mindfully, can also offer opportunities to strengthen family bonds and maintain connections across distances.
Technology serves as a replacement of mindfulness (Sati = remembering, keep in mind) so that one can concentrate on simply consume (samadhi).
One does no more need to put things right to stay in relation, does no more need to proper discriminate, put things on right places and order, but resists in what is called a "flat structure" where algorithm serve with what one then senses as hierarchy.

In cases the tool fail all are total disconnected, whould not even find each other, nor could interact in a non tech-supported relation. Any relation totally relays on unknown third part and it has replaced parents teacher...

Orphans fostered and supplied by machines. That gives all ways to abound even the last ideas of being obligated so that limits of unrestrained consume are cut off.

Look at rooms or houses, the dirt and mass, where people have replaced mindfulness with machines.

(sample on board attached)
Samana Johann wrote: June 29th, 2024, 10:59 pm Years ago my person got known the "hell" of media addiction. Since then, thought of what could be done to help some to get out again, back to the frame of reference, my person used those medias for simply the sake of getting free of those 'drugs' suggesting having control. Such simply means to get ban all over, in demo-crazy society, firm bond to their "Gods", "lords". Mara does not fear more then that his slaves gain independence from industry, don't relay on a faster wheel of death in the world of sensuality.

So at large my person can resume that's nearly impossible to ever escape from this realm once having become addicted, related, being in re-lay on it. It's a replacement tool for what's known as family or other relations in a normal sociaty.
You bring up a compelling argument about the overreliance on technology and its potential to replace genuine human connections. The concept of mindfulness, or "Sati," being replaced by a passive consumption facilitated by technology is indeed a concern. When people depend heavily on technology for maintaining relationships, it can lead to a disconnection from real-life interactions and a lack of genuine mindfulness.

However, it's also worth considering that technology can be a tool rather than a replacement. It can enhance our ability to connect with others if used appropriately. The key is to find a balance. Encouraging mindful use of technology, where it serves to enhance rather than replace our real-world interactions, could be a way forward. We can set boundaries for tech use and make conscious efforts to prioritize face-to-face interactions whenever possible.

Moreover, fostering digital literacy is essential. Teaching people, especially younger generations, to use technology as a tool rather than a crutch can help maintain the integrity of real-life relationships and mindfulness.
This tool/crutch dichotomy is accurate, hence why it is better to be raised without a technology, then learn to use it as an adult, than be raised with the technology in place, because the role of the technology is clearer if one knows the alternative to it.
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Sushan wrote: July 9th, 2024, 6:19 am
Samana Johann wrote: June 29th, 2024, 7:47 pm
Sushan wrote:
Samana Johann wrote: People at large are orphans without knowing their relation, children or unknown consume provider running crazy and frustrated, no idea whom the owe obligation to and where they fall in debt. Hardly anybody today has "real" parents, teacher, but re-lay on unknown.
Samana Johann wrote: Simply perfect de-generation.
It’s true that in our increasingly digital world, we often turn to technology for guidance and support, sometimes at the expense of real, meaningful relationships with parents, teachers, and mentors. In reflecting on your point about "real" parents and teachers, it’s clear that fostering genuine, face-to-face interactions is crucial for emotional and social development. The digital age has certainly brought about a form of "de-generation" where traditional values and relationships may feel diluted.

However, I believe that technology, when used mindfully, can also offer opportunities to strengthen family bonds and maintain connections across distances.
Technology serves as a replacement of mindfulness (Sati = remembering, keep in mind) so that one can concentrate on simply consume (samadhi).
One does no more need to put things right to stay in relation, does no more need to proper discriminate, put things on right places and order, but resists in what is called a "flat structure" where algorithm serve with what one then senses as hierarchy.

In cases the tool fail all are total disconnected, whould not even find each other, nor could interact in a non tech-supported relation. Any relation totally relays on unknown third part and it has replaced parents teacher...

Orphans fostered and supplied by machines. That gives all ways to abound even the last ideas of being obligated so that limits of unrestrained consume are cut off.

Look at rooms or houses, the dirt and mass, where people have replaced mindfulness with machines.

(sample on board attached)
Samana Johann wrote: June 29th, 2024, 10:59 pm Years ago my person got known the "hell" of media addiction. Since then, thought of what could be done to help some to get out again, back to the frame of reference, my person used those medias for simply the sake of getting free of those 'drugs' suggesting having control. Such simply means to get ban all over, in demo-crazy society, firm bond to their "Gods", "lords". Mara does not fear more then that his slaves gain independence from industry, don't relay on a faster wheel of death in the world of sensuality.

So at large my person can resume that's nearly impossible to ever escape from this realm once having become addicted, related, being in re-lay on it. It's a replacement tool for what's known as family or other relations in a normal sociaty.
You bring up a compelling argument about the overreliance on technology and its potential to replace genuine human connections. The concept of mindfulness, or "Sati," being replaced by a passive consumption facilitated by technology is indeed a concern. When people depend heavily on technology for maintaining relationships, it can lead to a disconnection from real-life interactions and a lack of genuine mindfulness.

However, it's also worth considering that technology can be a tool rather than a replacement. It can enhance our ability to connect with others if used appropriately. The key is to find a balance. Encouraging mindful use of technology, where it serves to enhance rather than replace our real-world interactions, could be a way forward. We can set boundaries for tech use and make conscious efforts to prioritize face-to-face interactions whenever possible.

Moreover, fostering digital literacy is essential. Teaching people, especially younger generations, to use technology as a tool rather than a crutch can help maintain the integrity of real-life relationships and mindfulness.
People use traditional relation and ways rather as a tool to maintain relation to technology... Good Sushans three running topics are all pointing on the same: orphans of marxism and revolution. Here people are, unrelated to even the first goods, parents, foster-nurse, teacher, recluse/priests.

Andceven it happens that such arises under yours, it's like to meet an alien fiction, and is bond to starve off (yet not for their own demerits).
Favorite Philosopher: Sublime Buddha no philosopher
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LuckyR wrote: July 9th, 2024, 10:06 am
Sushan wrote: July 9th, 2024, 6:19 am
Samana Johann wrote: June 29th, 2024, 7:47 pm
Sushan wrote:



It’s true that in our increasingly digital world, we often turn to technology for guidance and support, sometimes at the expense of real, meaningful relationships with parents, teachers, and mentors. In reflecting on your point about "real" parents and teachers, it’s clear that fostering genuine, face-to-face interactions is crucial for emotional and social development. The digital age has certainly brought about a form of "de-generation" where traditional values and relationships may feel diluted.

However, I believe that technology, when used mindfully, can also offer opportunities to strengthen family bonds and maintain connections across distances.
Technology serves as a replacement of mindfulness (Sati = remembering, keep in mind) so that one can concentrate on simply consume (samadhi).
One does no more need to put things right to stay in relation, does no more need to proper discriminate, put things on right places and order, but resists in what is called a "flat structure" where algorithm serve with what one then senses as hierarchy.

In cases the tool fail all are total disconnected, whould not even find each other, nor could interact in a non tech-supported relation. Any relation totally relays on unknown third part and it has replaced parents teacher...

Orphans fostered and supplied by machines. That gives all ways to abound even the last ideas of being obligated so that limits of unrestrained consume are cut off.

Look at rooms or houses, the dirt and mass, where people have replaced mindfulness with machines.

(sample on board attached)
Samana Johann wrote: June 29th, 2024, 10:59 pm Years ago my person got known the "hell" of media addiction. Since then, thought of what could be done to help some to get out again, back to the frame of reference, my person used those medias for simply the sake of getting free of those 'drugs' suggesting having control. Such simply means to get ban all over, in demo-crazy society, firm bond to their "Gods", "lords". Mara does not fear more then that his slaves gain independence from industry, don't relay on a faster wheel of death in the world of sensuality.

So at large my person can resume that's nearly impossible to ever escape from this realm once having become addicted, related, being in re-lay on it. It's a replacement tool for what's known as family or other relations in a normal sociaty.
You bring up a compelling argument about the overreliance on technology and its potential to replace genuine human connections. The concept of mindfulness, or "Sati," being replaced by a passive consumption facilitated by technology is indeed a concern. When people depend heavily on technology for maintaining relationships, it can lead to a disconnection from real-life interactions and a lack of genuine mindfulness.

However, it's also worth considering that technology can be a tool rather than a replacement. It can enhance our ability to connect with others if used appropriately. The key is to find a balance. Encouraging mindful use of technology, where it serves to enhance rather than replace our real-world interactions, could be a way forward. We can set boundaries for tech use and make conscious efforts to prioritize face-to-face interactions whenever possible.

Moreover, fostering digital literacy is essential. Teaching people, especially younger generations, to use technology as a tool rather than a crutch can help maintain the integrity of real-life relationships and mindfulness.
This tool/crutch dichotomy is accurate, hence why it is better to be raised without a technology, then learn to use it as an adult, than be raised with the technology in place, because the role of the technology is clearer if one knows the alternative to it.
I agree that grownups are better able to discriminate between using technology as a tool and abusing it. But it's also critical to acknowledge that technology touches practically every part of modern life in the world. It can be difficult to catch up as an adult after missing it as a child, and it could even put one at a disadvantage.

It is true that children may abuse technology or turn it into a crutch if they are not given the right instruction. However, entirely insulating children from it might not be the best course of action either. If kids are not taught how to use technology at an early age, they may find it difficult to do so in the future.

Here, balance appears to be the key. Children can be prepared to use technology properly as they get older by being taught how to use it responsibly, having boundaries established, and being made aware of both its advantages and disadvantages. It's about giving them the abilities and mindset necessary to navigate the technology environment in which they’ll inevitably be a part of.
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Samana Johann wrote: July 9th, 2024, 8:08 pm
Sushan wrote: July 9th, 2024, 6:19 am
Samana Johann wrote: June 29th, 2024, 7:47 pm
Sushan wrote:



It’s true that in our increasingly digital world, we often turn to technology for guidance and support, sometimes at the expense of real, meaningful relationships with parents, teachers, and mentors. In reflecting on your point about "real" parents and teachers, it’s clear that fostering genuine, face-to-face interactions is crucial for emotional and social development. The digital age has certainly brought about a form of "de-generation" where traditional values and relationships may feel diluted.

However, I believe that technology, when used mindfully, can also offer opportunities to strengthen family bonds and maintain connections across distances.
Technology serves as a replacement of mindfulness (Sati = remembering, keep in mind) so that one can concentrate on simply consume (samadhi).
One does no more need to put things right to stay in relation, does no more need to proper discriminate, put things on right places and order, but resists in what is called a "flat structure" where algorithm serve with what one then senses as hierarchy.

In cases the tool fail all are total disconnected, whould not even find each other, nor could interact in a non tech-supported relation. Any relation totally relays on unknown third part and it has replaced parents teacher...

Orphans fostered and supplied by machines. That gives all ways to abound even the last ideas of being obligated so that limits of unrestrained consume are cut off.

Look at rooms or houses, the dirt and mass, where people have replaced mindfulness with machines.

(sample on board attached)
Samana Johann wrote: June 29th, 2024, 10:59 pm Years ago my person got known the "hell" of media addiction. Since then, thought of what could be done to help some to get out again, back to the frame of reference, my person used those medias for simply the sake of getting free of those 'drugs' suggesting having control. Such simply means to get ban all over, in demo-crazy society, firm bond to their "Gods", "lords". Mara does not fear more then that his slaves gain independence from industry, don't relay on a faster wheel of death in the world of sensuality.

So at large my person can resume that's nearly impossible to ever escape from this realm once having become addicted, related, being in re-lay on it. It's a replacement tool for what's known as family or other relations in a normal sociaty.
You bring up a compelling argument about the overreliance on technology and its potential to replace genuine human connections. The concept of mindfulness, or "Sati," being replaced by a passive consumption facilitated by technology is indeed a concern. When people depend heavily on technology for maintaining relationships, it can lead to a disconnection from real-life interactions and a lack of genuine mindfulness.

However, it's also worth considering that technology can be a tool rather than a replacement. It can enhance our ability to connect with others if used appropriately. The key is to find a balance. Encouraging mindful use of technology, where it serves to enhance rather than replace our real-world interactions, could be a way forward. We can set boundaries for tech use and make conscious efforts to prioritize face-to-face interactions whenever possible.

Moreover, fostering digital literacy is essential. Teaching people, especially younger generations, to use technology as a tool rather than a crutch can help maintain the integrity of real-life relationships and mindfulness.
People use traditional relation and ways rather as a tool to maintain relation to technology... Good Sushans three running topics are all pointing on the same: orphans of marxism and revolution. Here people are, unrelated to even the first goods, parents, foster-nurse, teacher, recluse/priests.

Andceven it happens that such arises under yours, it's like to meet an alien fiction, and is bond to starve off (yet not for their own demerits).
I respect your viewpoint regarding the significance of upholding conventional relationships and norms. Without a question, these relationships have been extremely important in forming human communities. But I think that if we don't embrace the opportunities that technology presents, we risk limiting our ability to grow and adapt in a world that is always changing.

Modern life would be impossible without technology, which has the capacity to improve relationships between people, speed up learning, and advance society. Though acknowledging and honouring the customs that have led us to this point is crucial, we shouldn't allow them to stand in the way of creativity and progress.

The idea that technology distances us from our heritage or makes us lose contact with essential connections ignores the ways in which technology may also create fresh, significant connections that bind us together.

Of course, balance is essential. It's critical to embrace technology with consideration and make sure that it strengthens rather than weakens our relationships with one another. However, to ignore its influence on how the future is shaped or to view technology only as a danger to conventional values would be to ignore the amazing advantages it can provide.

Adapting to new tools and ways of thinking is not only important, but crucial for survival and advancement in a world that is changing all the time. While it's important to hold onto the past, it's also important to look forward to the future and grasp the chances that lie ahead.
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Vines Ashley Wayne wrote: August 28th, 2024, 9:39 am I think technology can have both effects depending on your situation. When you're near your family, it might actually distance you from them, but if you're far away, it's usually the main way you can keep in touch
I completely agree with your point about technology having different effects depending on the situation. It's interesting how something that can bring people together across distances can also create a sense of separation when we're physically close. When we're near our loved ones, technology can sometimes act as a distraction, pulling us away from meaningful in-person interactions. But when distance is a factor, it becomes a lifeline, allowing us to maintain those connections that might otherwise fade.

It's all about finding that balance, and how do you manage that balance in your life?

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