Sculptor1 wrote: ↑July 10th, 2020, 3:15 pm
The limits are in the machine, not the man.
That's something someone whose never heard a good drummer needs to know because they've never heard a good drummer. It's not someone's concern if a rules of a genre they like aren't centered on athletic prowess.
Steve3007 wrote: ↑July 10th, 2020, 5:43 am
Deaths: Contrary to popular myth, Mama Cass didn't die by choking on a ham sandwich. But John Denver did die while desperately trying to switch to the reserve fuel tank in the experimental plane he was flying.
I hope I go like my grandpa, quietly in my sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Papus79 wrote: ↑July 10th, 2020, 3:23 pm
That's something someone whose never heard a good drummer needs to know because they've never heard a good drummer. It's not someone's concern if a rules of a genre they like aren't centered on athletic prowess.
James Taylor live with Steve Gadd on drums. No machine can capture what Steve Gadd did in this with tension and release that that nothing to do with athlectic prowess.
Drum machines are overused in popular music for financial and logistical reasons. The machines have their ideal applications (I use them at times, myself) but economic rationalisation, not taste, has driven their spread. A good drummer with a feel for the music craps on any drum machine from a great height in most music. Alas, as people's ears are conditioned to the machine beats all around them today they become ever less adept at telling the difference.
chewybrian wrote:I hope I go like my grandpa, quietly in my sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
A classic joke to go with some classic music.
Greta wrote:James Taylor live with Steve Gadd on drums. No machine can capture what Steve Gadd did in this with tension and release that that nothing to do with athlectic prowess.
Do you mean James Taylor as in The James Taylor Quartet or James Taylor as in Sweet Baby James? (Or a third one. I guess it's probably quite a common name). I like both for different moods.
Re: A music / listening share thread?
Posted: July 11th, 2020, 5:08 am
by chewybrian
Re: A music / listening share thread?
Posted: July 11th, 2020, 5:15 am
by Steve3007
Seseme Street was the funkiest kids' show ever made. Even funkier than Fingerbobs. That mouth device that Stevie uses was all the rage at the time wasn't it. Peter Frampton loved it.
Was it the same device? Not sure.
Re: A music / listening share thread?
Posted: July 11th, 2020, 5:28 am
by Steve3007
Actually, Bod is a close contender too. It was a pioneer of the idea that everyone should have their own entrance music, as US presidents have traditionally had ever since "Hail To the Chief" was used to make sure everyone knew when President James Polk, a particularly unimposing president, entered the room.
Music by the great Derek Griffiths.
James Taylor live with Steve Gadd on drums. No machine can capture what Steve Gadd did in this with tension and release that that nothing to do with athlectic prowess.
Drum machines are overused in popular music for financial and logistical reasons. The machines have their ideal applications (I use them at times, myself) but economic rationalisation, not taste, has driven their spread. A good drummer with a feel for the music craps on any drum machine from a great height in most music. Alas, as people's ears are conditioned to the machine beats all around them today they become ever less adept at telling the difference.
Machines leave me cold.
I have a Slingerland, and a Roland electronic kit. I'd prefer the Slingerland everytime, but the Roland has more sounds and you can TURN IT DOWN - so great for practice.
Roland have done what they can to read the pressure on the skin from the stick but the dynamic range simply cannot be matched by a real skin on a real drum.
But at least you can be in the moment with the Roland and offer a live performance.
Since my neck cancer I've not played, though. the kits are in the loft, must do something with them.
Re: A music / listening share thread?
Posted: July 11th, 2020, 6:48 am
by Sculptor1
Steve3007 wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 5:28 am
Actually, Bod is a close contender too. It was a pioneer of the idea that everyone should have their own entrance music, as US presidents have traditionally had ever since "Hail To the Chief" was used to make sure everyone knew when President James Polk, a particularly unimposing president, entered the room.
Music by the great Derek Griffiths.
And the voice of John LeMesurier
Re: A music / listening share thread?
Posted: July 11th, 2020, 6:52 am
by Sculptor1
Steve3007 wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 5:15 am
Seseme Street was the funkiest kids' show ever made. Even funkier than Fingerbobs. That mouth device that Stevie uses was all the rage at the time wasn't it. Peter Frampton loved it.
Was it the same device? Not sure.
Steve3007 wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 5:15 am
Seseme Street was the funkiest kids' show ever made. Even funkier than Fingerbobs. That mouth device that Stevie uses was all the rage at the time wasn't it. Peter Frampton loved it.
Was it the same device? Not sure.
I'm not sure if it is the same thing, but the effect is similar. It was a great time for music and culture in general. At least, it seemed that way to me, but I guess I was too young and naive to see all the injustice. It's hard to see that we've made much progress, though, in terms of virtue, in those 50 years between then and now.