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I would suggest that secular science has never seriously considered natures full logic because it would be forced to accept +=+ and -=- logic as well and the possibility that a + and - are different.

However natures science has confirmed that they are different because if they were the same then all of the magnetic force interactions NN,NS,SN,SS would be IDENTICAL and they are not.

Which proves secular science at the foundational level has totally failed.

Joshua, were you ever required to do simple scientific experiments when you were at school?

Belindi wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:44 am Joshua, were you ever required to do simple scientific experiments when you were at school?

I think you have asked that question before.

Can I ask what is your point? Do you even have a point? Please try to be more clear with what you are asking.Thanks.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 8:26 am If gravity is "mythical", what is it that holds you down to the floor?

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:18 am I have suggested that magnetic forces hold matter together i.e. earth and our physical bodies due to vibrating/toggling +/- charges.

I would similarly suggest that magnetic forces hold me down to the floor which is dependent upon spin of the planet which is an electromagnetic.

Certainly not that mythical force gravity, that’s for sure.

If vibrating/toggling charges caused gravity, we would be alternately attracted and repelled, no?

The spin of the planet has little to do with electromagnetism, I (strongly) suspect.

Belindi wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:44 am Joshua, were you ever required to do simple scientific experiments when you were at school?

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:48 am I think you have asked that question before.

Can I ask what is your point? Do you even have a point? Please try to be more clear with what you are asking.Thanks.

I think the question is a nice, courteous, way of saying that it seems you have little or no knowledge of science in practice (or in theory).

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:42 am ...all of the magnetic force interactions NN,NS,SN,SS would be IDENTICAL and they are not.

Like poles repel; unlike poles attract. This accords with practical, experimental, evidence.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 10:35 am

Belindi wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:44 am Joshua, were you ever required to do simple scientific experiments when you were at school?

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:48 am I think you have asked that question before.

Can I ask what is your point? Do you even have a point? Please try to be more clear with what you are asking.Thanks.

I think the question is a nice, courteous, way of saying that it seems you have little or no knowledge of science in practice (or in theory).

It would appear that secular science has little or no knowledge of natures science which is embarrassing.Secular science relies totally on a mythical force to come up with its failed theories such as the single BB theory.That is the truth of the matter.

There is nothing wrong with my philosophy or science.It’s totally sound because it is based upon natures science and philosophical principles.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 10:37 am

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:42 am ...all of the magnetic force interactions NN,NS,SN,SS would be IDENTICAL and they are not.

Like poles repel; unlike poles attract. This accords with practical, experimental, evidence.

Yes I totally agree and the 4 off interactions are not identical in every aspect which secular science philosophy claims should be the case with its +=- and -=+ philosophical logic which it bases all it’s scientific principles on.

The statement +=- and -=+ is therefore a false statement according to natures science.

Is secular science now saying that they only need to be nearly the same? If they are only nearly the same then they ain’t the same are they? The interactions would be identical if the were all the same.They are not the same.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 10:32 am

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 8:26 am If gravity is "mythical", what is it that holds you down to the floor?

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:18 am I have suggested that magnetic forces hold matter together i.e. earth and our physical bodies due to vibrating/toggling +/- charges.

I would similarly suggest that magnetic forces hold me down to the floor which is dependent upon spin of the planet which is an electromagnetic.

Certainly not that mythical force gravity, that’s for sure.

If vibrating/toggling charges caused gravity, we would be alternately attracted and repelled, no?

The spin of the planet has little to do with electromagnetism, I (strongly) suspect.

I would suggest that natures science doesn’t recognise gravity.It doesn’t know what it is like everyone else including secular scientists.

The spin of the planet has little to do with electromagnetism is like saying electromagnetism has little do with a motor or generator.

Things spin in electromagnetic fields resulting in electromagnets!!

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:42 am ...all of the magnetic force interactions NN,NS,SN,SS would be IDENTICAL and they are not.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 10:37 am Like poles repel; unlike poles attract. This accords with practical, experimental, evidence.

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 11:52 am Yes I totally agree and the 4 off interactions are not identical in every aspect which secular science philosophy claims should be the case...

Fact-check: Er, no, it doesn't.

Observation tell us you can’t balance a - with + or a + with a - because you get an attraction.Observations also tell us you can’t balance + with a + or a - with a - either because you get a repulsion.

You can only balance the equation if you get a + and - on one side of the fence and a + and - on the other side of the fence.

Then you get balance, albeit a vibrating balance which is EXACTLY what is observed in the cosmos and EXACTLY what is experienced at the psychological level with sound philosophy.

+/- (toggling)=+/- (toggling).

The only things in science that we know of that can cause such toggling is ELECTROMECHANICAL processes.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 12:35 pm

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 9:42 am ...all of the magnetic force interactions NN,NS,SN,SS would be IDENTICAL and they are not.

Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 10:37 am Like poles repel; unlike poles attract. This accords with practical, experimental, evidence.

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 11:52 am Yes I totally agree and the 4 off interactions are not identical in every aspect which secular science philosophy claims should be the case...

Fact-check: Er, no, it doesn't.

Absolutely it does with its Philosophical logic.You can make statements that you cannot prove for example like no God exists and therefore there is no such thing as right or wrong.However,there may be God and there might be such a thing as right or wrong.

Secular science bases all it’s science on +=- and-=+ logic…everything! Nature disagrees.

Get used to it

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 1:07 pm You can make statements that you cannot prove for example like no God exists...

There is no proof (or rebuttal) of any sort that God does or does not exist.

Joshua10 wrote: ↑September 29th, 2022, 1:07 pm ...and therefore there is no such thing as right or wrong.

This doesn't follow from your sentence introduction.