Posted: October 21st, 2010, 10:47 am
ChaoticMindSays thanks for clearing that up.
I think Kapra is right, when the word infinity is raised and discussed in a philosophy forum it can mean one thing to a mathematician and another to the theist and another to you or someone else, and you would be talking at cross purposes unless you state what you mean by infinity it makes for clearer discussion. Instead you have made this unclear and said one thing and then another.
Example
CMS #123
CMS #127
If infinity is a real thing than omniscience could not exist. It would be impossible to know everything. Or if "everything" was known, the knowledge would be limited and still be relative.
Kapra #130
CMS "It means that if infinity is a real thing than "everything" is open ended and omniscience, the knowledge of all things, could never be complete and, therefor, could not exist."
Kapra "things would exist, you seem to be arguing because it isn`t real for humans it could not exist, by saying that you are claiming you know the outcome. Define what you mean by infinity this would be a start in the right direction.[/quote]
Kapra on concepts raised by CMS #136
CMS #137
Um You did when you defined what infinity means to you.
Kapra in post#141 and is coherant and explicit in his writing . see this thread spiral into chaos.
Chaoticmindsays I am clear in my references and not taking any lines out of context.
CMS #150
I don't see how you got confused
I didn`t but you are confusing things.[/quote]
I think Kapra is right, when the word infinity is raised and discussed in a philosophy forum it can mean one thing to a mathematician and another to the theist and another to you or someone else, and you would be talking at cross purposes unless you state what you mean by infinity it makes for clearer discussion. Instead you have made this unclear and said one thing and then another.
Example
CMS #123
Well I believe that contradictions are sometimes necessary. But should be avoided, or solved, if possible
CMS #127
If infinity is a real thing than omniscience could not exist. It would be impossible to know everything. Or if "everything" was known, the knowledge would be limited and still be relative.
Kapra #130
CMS "It means that if infinity is a real thing than "everything" is open ended and omniscience, the knowledge of all things, could never be complete and, therefor, could not exist."
Kapra "things would exist, you seem to be arguing because it isn`t real for humans it could not exist, by saying that you are claiming you know the outcome. Define what you mean by infinity this would be a start in the right direction.[/quote]
Kapra on concepts raised by CMS #136
but they will never be such as cannot be comprehended by us because we are the ones doing the defining.
CMS #137
Who said I was speaking of the definition?
Um You did when you defined what infinity means to you.
Kapra in post#141 and is coherant and explicit in his writing . see this thread spiral into chaos.
Chaoticmindsays I am clear in my references and not taking any lines out of context.
CMS #150
I don't see how you got confused
I didn`t but you are confusing things.[/quote]