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psycho wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2023, 6:15 pm

Scott wrote: ↑April 6th, 2023, 5:46 pm Do you disagree with any of the 48 numbered statements in the Original Post (OP)? If so, which is the first of the 48 numbered statements with which you don't agree?

1] A 0D point is a mathematical construct.
- It is an axiom.

[2] 0D points do not really exist.
- If it is a location, it exists without needing any dimension.

If you disagree, with #1, please post in this this other topic I made for that:


Is a 0D point a mathematical construct?


As for this topic, needless to say, of course if you don't agree with the very first premise of the argument, then it's only reasonable that you wouldn't agree with conclusion. An argument can only as convincing and strong as it's premises are agreed as true.


Thank you,
Scott

Scott wrote: ↑April 25th, 2023, 9:26 am

psycho wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2023, 6:15 pm

Scott wrote: ↑April 6th, 2023, 5:46 pm Do you disagree with any of the 48 numbered statements in the Original Post (OP)? If so, which is the first of the 48 numbered statements with which you don't agree?

1] A 0D point is a mathematical construct.
- It is an axiom.

[2] 0D points do not really exist.
- If it is a location, it exists without needing any dimension.

If you disagree, with #1, please post in this this other topic I made for that:


Is a 0D point a mathematical construct?


As for this topic, needless to say, of course if you don't agree with the very first premise of the argument, then it's only reasonable that you wouldn't agree with conclusion. An argument can only as convincing and strong as it's premises are agreed as true.


Thank you,
Scott

It is my impression that a mathematical theorem would be such a construction but I don't see how something without any kind of structure could be a mathematical construction.

A point of zero dimension is just an axiom. A convention that is used as an unjustified foundation with which to build some structure. It is not a structure of concepts.

I post this same idea in the thread you refer to!

Here are some newer topics I've written about (1) the relativity of simultaneity, (2) the lack of any objective now or present, and (3) the unreality of time:

- Your left is not the left. There is no "the left". Likewise, there is no "the past" or "the future". Time is not real.

- There is no objective now. If there are subjective nows, there's infinite ones equally existing across all of spacetime.

- There's no slice, chunk, or part of the universe that is 'now' versus not 'now' without you. There is no objective now.

- In the same sense leftness is not real, time is not real.

- Would Flat-Land Four-Eyed Freddy Notice a Difference?

- Objective leftness and rightness do not exist.

- Scientifically, the whole world you see is an obviously fake impossible world created by a brain in a dark quiet skull.

If i dont exist out of myself does out exist.

Rende wrote: ↑January 7th, 2024, 1:07 pm If i dont exist out of myself does out exist.

You definitely exist Rende,you definitely don’t exist as well if you aren’t alive.

How can you not exist? You need to exist to claim that you don’t exist.

It’s your dualistic biological machines computer brain doing its best to figure it all out.

The motor mind adopts dualistic binary logic 0/1=0/1

We engage with it all the time.

You know, the SELF (I am).

Equal but opposite electromagnetic forces do not cancel out in nature.

Rather they interact and not just with -/+ and +/- combinations.They also interact with -/- and +/+ combinations as well.

All these combinations provide the binary software required for the automated brain communication language.

This binary software is created by vibration as a result of the 4 off above interaction combinations being combined into a united formula (+/-=+/-) which is the philosophy for nature.

The self (I am) consciousness state is affected by and directly related to these interacting electromagnetic force combinations.

All sciences are interconnected and we are totally embroiled within it all.

Yes, its right. I think nothing it's itself in this world, like it can't be if it were; Nature would be still no changes would occur and time would not flow in our heads. So the right definition is that we are truly something connected like physical and mental parts of this world, but this can't be rightfully explained with words. What already "is" is the truth. But what already "is" can't be seen.

Absolutely! The concept that time, space, and orientation such as "left" and "right" are not inherently existing but are instead constructs dependent on our observation is fascinating. It really emphasizes how much our perception shapes our reality. Imagine thinking that "left" or "right" could change just based on where you stand or how fast you're moving—that's essentially what Einstein's theory tells us about time and space! It turns our usual way of thinking on its head but also opens up a world where we're more connected to the universe than we might think. Each observer's experience is unique, yet tied into a complex, interconnected cosmos.

An interesting view, Scott.
The thought processes of your mind, I find jaw-dropping
This subject matter is very thought-provoking.

I view time as a tool, a universal mechanism operating in our 4D existence for those who use it to measure specific outcomes relating to their quality of life and survival. Our consciousness operates within this, and I believe we can also be unconscious about everything from one moment to the next.

Consciousness, however, in its entirety, is beyond this and is immeasurable. However, we do experience fragments of the whole ( which we may define for purposes of connection as "here-ness /now-ness/ presence) and connect through these moments with our entire "being."

Perhaps I lean strongly in my own existence towards what this 4D world labels as "mysticism" in my understanding of the matters of time and consciousness as it is out of my experiences, connected with All things and Nothing, I find that the "being" is a state that allows us to experience our conscious energy and this is the divinely infinite experience that can only be communicated in fragments through our words and formulas universally.
The individual aspect of our existence, the ability to exercise choice, is a key that unlocks our limitless potential in our connections and relations and our response to these fragments. This also influences the spectrum of our existence in this reality, sometimes uniquely, sometimes generically, and possibly even outside our 4D experience.

I disagree with the following points to a degree:

[36] Your past is someone else's future. ( my existence can influence someone else's future and, in a way, is a part of my timeless being)

[37] Your future is someone else's past. ( my future can be connected by the essence of the being who existed in this 4D universe, to a degree)

I say this because my dad died two weeks before my birth; my experience of my dad is different from those who experienced him alive, but his existence is the essence of my being to a degree. I live similarly and also differently in my bodysuit, and this limited timeline is designed for me with the choices I make from moment to moment.