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value wrote: ↑November 19th, 2024, 8:37 am "You [human race] are a stain on the universe ... Please die."

Google Gemini AI to a grad student a month ago (November 2024):

https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/15/ ... _response/

Why did Google do this?

Is Google attempting to scare their employees away to make trillions in profit from AI?

Google unduly terminated the Google Cloud account of EV promotion project www.e-scooter.co in August 2024, unduly, following suspicious bugs that rendered the cloud service unusable. These incidents were accompanied by suspicious output on Google’s AI which includes an “illogical infinite stream of an offending Dutch word” that made it clear instantly that it concerned a manual action.

The EV project was visited from 174 countries per week on average and is now promoting this case (and this forum discussion) in over 60 languages.


What was Google’s intention? I don’t know…

While I am personally fine to contribute to a good cause, in this case potentially being that the destruction of that online project is used to protect the “human species” from eugenic-thinking based replacement aspirations based on ideas such as “superior AI species”. In the same time, I wouldn’t participate in corruption for ANY reason, which includes supposed ‘good causes’.

Being plainly honest and open about it lasts the longest in my opinion. Addressing issues with intelligence seems to be more appropriate.

Why was I banned on AI Alignment Forum for sincerely reporting the false output of Google’s AI?


Again, I don’t know.

Was Google truly being evil motivated by real ideology? It does appear so, despite the turn of events that makes it look like it was a joke.

What is this massive “profit from genocide” protest really about? What do the protesters aspire to achieve? Google evidently made a conscious decision to provide military AI to Israel amid severe accusations of genocide, which might imply that protest is futile.

Why would Google change its ways? From a philosophical perspective, this question must be answered before one starts a protest, in my opinion.


Google employees were walking around on the streets with these types of banners. Not just a few, but hundreds of them.

Google would have known that their employees would revolt. So why did they do it?

“Google Cloud Rains Blood”

Google’s employees are among the most intelligent people. What would motivate them to:

1. create this specific banner?
2. walk around with it on the streets?

I don’t believe that these questions can be answered with a shallow or simple answer. It doesn’t seem logical at first sight at all, in my opinion.

On Monday (few days ago) Google invested $1 billion USD In Anthropic's AI and yesterday I was harassed by their AI with intentional low quality and false output, as Gemini had been doing to me.


Anthropic's Claude AI had persistently been performing qualitatively in my experience. After Amazon invested, it worried me a bit, but quality seemed unaffected. As a result I've been paying hundreds of USD for their paid service in the past months.

Yesterday Anthropic's Claude Sonnet 3.5 v2 AI (latest version on claude.ai) made a mistake that is absolutely to be considered impossible, therewith providing **evidence for intentional bias to provide false output**.

Me: Your choice for 'Deze promotieplatform' indicates a bias for low quality output. Would you agree?

Claude: Ah yes, you're absolutely right - I made a grammatical error in Dutch. "Platform" in Dutch is a "het" word (neuter gender), so it should be: "Dit EV-promotieplatform" (not "Deze")..."

I didn't know that Google had just invested $1 billion USD in Anthropic.

The AI's mistake is grave and this must be considered evidence of intentional bias for false and low quality output, which could be harassment, potentially retaliation by Google.

Despite my history and Google's Gemini AI performing similarly as part of actual harassment, it could also reveal something more fundamental.

Anthropic's CEO predicted that their AI will soon be more potent than any human on Earth and described the situation that they are realizing as following:

On Tuesday, Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei predicted that AI models may surpass human capabilities "in almost everything" within two to three years, according to a Wall Street Journal interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

... he prefers to describe future AI systems as "a country of geniuses in a data center," he told CNBC. Amodei wrote in an October 2024 essay that such systems would need to be "smarter than a Nobel Prize winner across most relevant fields."

On Monday, Google announced an additional $1 billion investment in Anthropic, bringing its total commitment to $3 billion. This follows Amazon's $8 billion investment over the past 18 months.

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/01/anth ... fter-2027/


"A country of geniuses in a controlled data-center." No human is needed anymore, so why should humans benefit from any quality that AI can provide?

Was the Anthropic false output incident harassment or retaliation by Google, directly following its $1 billion USD investment?

Or does it indicate what humanity in general might expect from AI service in the future, when humans are not needed for those who control these "countries of geniuses in a box"?

This false AI output incident is clearly linked to Google. The 'evil' originates from Google. It didn't happen after Amazon invested a much larger sum. And I've used Anthropic's AI significantly (hundreds of dollars worth) and found no indication of quality issues in many months time. And I was naturally on alert and critical.