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Papus79 wrote: ↑September 18th, 2022, 11:20 pm Yeah, Joni's an undisputed. Her versatility, flipping between omniscience and playfulness that almost sounds proto-Bjork, and the story telling that goes along wit that.Moving from sublime skills to cluelessness, from deep lyricism to naivete:)
Sy Borg wrote: ↑September 19th, 2022, 3:24 am Moving from sublime skills to cluelessness, from deep lyricism to naivete:)Pink Floyd's Ummagumma comes to mind here. They also could have opened for Captain Beefheart.
A father decided that his three daughters would become rock stars. So he put them in a studio with instruments and told them to go for it, even though they had no experience with music. The album became the stuff of legend. Hilariously, some people have transcribed it. https://musescore.com/user/26865128/scores/4874026
The transcription is a great example of how chaos is more complex than order.
Sy Borg wrote: ↑September 18th, 2022, 11:10 pm Haha! That track was arguably the start of it all. If not, it was deeply influential.I loved it when I read that Joni searched for backing musicians for a long time, and eventually discovered that only jazz musicians could grok what she was trying to do. From then on, I think, she only worked with jazzers.
I have mellowed out a lot since then. This is one of my favourite performances ever, by anyone. The vocals, sax and bass take me to heaven.
Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑September 19th, 2022, 12:36 pmThese are not just jazzers, these are band leaders and award winners. Jaco on bass was perhaps the best ever. Pet Metheny on guitar is a genius, with no overstatement. Michael Brecker is a saxophone legend. Don Alias on drums had played with Miles Davis, Elvin Jones and Nina Simone. It's testimony to Joni's chops, respect, ability to lead and her bank balance to front such an elite band, and have them playing brilliantly.Sy Borg wrote: ↑September 18th, 2022, 11:10 pm Haha! That track was arguably the start of it all. If not, it was deeply influential.I loved it when I read that Joni searched for backing musicians for a long time, and eventually discovered that only jazz musicians could grok what she was trying to do. From then on, I think, she only worked with jazzers. 👍
I have mellowed out a lot since then. This is one of my favourite performances ever, by anyone. The vocals, sax and bass take me to heaven.
Papus79 wrote: ↑September 19th, 2022, 10:24 amYes, leading with 13/4 is the kind of thing Meshuggah might do (for a couple of bard before switching to 27/16 for a few bars before settling into a comfortable 19/8 groove at 280 bpm :)Sy Borg wrote: ↑September 19th, 2022, 3:24 am Moving from sublime skills to cluelessness, from deep lyricism to naivete:)Pink Floyd's Ummagumma comes to mind here. They also could have opened for Captain Beefheart.
A father decided that his three daughters would become rock stars. So he put them in a studio with instruments and told them to go for it, even though they had no experience with music. The album became the stuff of legend. Hilariously, some people have transcribed it. https://musescore.com/user/26865128/scores/4874026
The transcription is a great example of how chaos is more complex than order.
I wonder if Meshuggah took some of their polyrhythms. :lol:
Sy Borg wrote: ↑September 19th, 2022, 3:24 amHOLY MOLY!!! I had never heard of the Fab Three before…Papus79 wrote: ↑September 18th, 2022, 11:20 pm Yeah, Joni's an undisputed. Her versatility, flipping between omniscience and playfulness that almost sounds proto-Bjork, and the story telling that goes along wit that.Moving from sublime skills to cluelessness, from deep lyricism to naivete:)
A father decided that his three daughters would become rock stars. So he put them in a studio with instruments and told them to go for it, even though they had no experience with music. The album became the stuff of legend.
Papus79 wrote: ↑September 19th, 2022, 9:59 pmYes, and Saucerful of Secrets conjures up an amazing atmosphere. I much preferred them before Roger Waters took over, at which point the songs became less ethereal and more strident, and the music became more a vehicle for Roger's ideas than potent in its own right.Sy Borg wrote: ↑September 19th, 2022, 8:25 pmEchoes Pt I and II were a thing of beauty, really glad they did it.
Have always loved Floyd. The Pompeii live set is a long-time favourite:
Consul wrote: ↑September 19th, 2022, 10:12 pmTheirs is a strange story!Sy Borg wrote: ↑September 19th, 2022, 3:24 amHOLY MOLY!!! I had never heard of the Fab Three before…Papus79 wrote: ↑September 18th, 2022, 11:20 pm Yeah, Joni's an undisputed. Her versatility, flipping between omniscience and playfulness that almost sounds proto-Bjork, and the story telling that goes along wit that.Moving from sublime skills to cluelessness, from deep lyricism to naivete:)
A father decided that his three daughters would become rock stars. So he put them in a studio with instruments and told them to go for it, even though they had no experience with music. The album became the stuff of legend.
That album really exists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNV7C-k ... az5kNs3bgs
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