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Sculptor1 wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 9:06 am

GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 6:41 am

You really have this thing against the monotheistic God. I really don't care. We disagree about Christianity/Judaism/Islam but why not? I love a good argument. I also argue with Hindu pundits about just what Hinduism is. Unfortunately, today many of them have tied up their religion with Marxism. I refuse to get involved in Nepali politics, which is mostly Communist and Maoist. I remember the 1960 well. Most of the political activists of the time came out of the small town churches. And my friend's father was a Methodist/Quaker minister and he was that only person who could talk and mediate between the North Vietnamese Viet Cong in Paris and the American government. His mother was a Trotskyite. It was a wild time. And quite fun.

A bold claim.
What was his name?

His name was Rev. Tinker. I forget his first name. My friend was John Tinker of the Tinker vs. the Des Board of Education fame.

GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 3:21 pm

Sculptor1 wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 9:06 am
A bold claim.
What was his name?

His name was Rev. Tinker. I forget his first name. My friend was John Tinker of the Tinker vs. the Des Board of Education fame.

So REV Tinker was the " only person who could talk and mediate between the North Vietnamese in Paris and the American government."
I think unlikely.
Claims using hyperbole or superlatives tend to appear ridiculous.

GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 1:56 am

Greta wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 12:54 am Entropy may seem "washed" to you when laid out as just a "scientific word".

When you consider what entropy is, then you see that large amounts of entropy up close equals horror. Kali.

Sometimes in life much entropy comes to you. Maybe a bad decision. Maybe in the wrong place at the wrong time. And certainly at the end of life.

Many things in reality are beautiful and admirable at a distance but deadly up close. In fact, many of the most beautiful and creative things from afar are also the most lethal if you get within cooee of them.

I would like to read some of your thoughts on Kali worship (puja). I of course would never do it. It would be much too frightening for me. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... ja+worship and here is animal sacrifice, which is very common https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_YheuSrcY0

You have to hand it to humans. We are big on sacrifices - as long as the sacrifice is made by someone else.

Animal sacrifice, along with factory farming and war, highlight human hubris, vanity and lack of empathy.

If human civilisations survive their environmental vandalism, these cruel and pathetic practices will diminish (and not just because most other large species will be extinct). There is a very long way to go for humanity to reach its potential, morally as much as technologically.

It goes to show how primitive religions really are and how primitive those who still practice it. What would some idiot god require an animal sacrifice for anyways? Does it starve until somebody feeds it?

Sculptor1 wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 5:46 pm

GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 3:21 pm

His name was Rev. Tinker. I forget his first name. My friend was John Tinker of the Tinker vs. the Des Board of Education fame.

So REV Tinker was the " only person who could talk and mediate between the North Vietnamese in Paris and the American government."
I think unlikely.
Claims using hyperbole or superlatives tend to appear ridiculous.

I am certainly a ridiculous person.

Greta wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 5:58 pm

GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 1:56 am

I would like to read some of your thoughts on Kali worship (puja). I of course would never do it. It would be much too frightening for me. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... ja+worship and here is animal sacrifice, which is very common https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_YheuSrcY0

You have to hand it to humans. We are big on sacrifices - as long as the sacrifice is made by someone else.

Animal sacrifice, along with factory farming and war, highlight human hubris, vanity and lack of empathy.

If human civilisations survive their environmental vandalism, these cruel and pathetic practices will diminish (and not just because most other large species will be extinct). There is a very long way to go for humanity to reach its potential, morally as much as technologically.

Humans will not survive their being what they are. The true exemplar of who we are is the Marquis de Sade. We are a sado-masochistic lot. Your dream is unrealistic. The boy who comes and cooks and cleans for me is the one in his village who cuts off the head of the sacrificial animal. He is a very cute, rather timid boy. I come from the state of Iowa, where at any given time there are about three million people and sixteen million pigs all (both human and animal) in confinement, waiting to be slaughtered.

Jklint wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 7:08 pm It goes to show how primitive religions really are and how primitive those who still practice it. What would some idiot god require an animal sacrifice for anyways? Does it starve until somebody feeds it?

You need to get in touch with reality, not a suburban dream. Mankind is a sado-masochistic thing and so are the gods he bows to. Get real, man.

GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 11:09 pm

Jklint wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 7:08 pm It goes to show how primitive religions really are and how primitive those who still practice it. What would some idiot god require an animal sacrifice for anyways? Does it starve until somebody feeds it?

You need to get in touch with reality, not a suburban dream. Mankind is a sado-masochistic thing and so are the gods he bows to. Get real, man.

That's correct, he's a disgusting piece of crap with all the right qualities to bury himself in a landfil. But when having said so in a prior post you called me a misanthrope as if I was saying something that wasn't true when in fact your definition defaults to mine!

Jklint wrote: ↑August 27th, 2019, 3:27 am

GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑August 26th, 2019, 11:09 pm

You need to get in touch with reality, not a suburban dream. Mankind is a sado-masochistic thing and so are the gods he bows to. Get real, man.

That's correct, he's a disgusting piece of crap with all the right qualities to bury himself in a landfil. But when having said so in a prior post you called me a misanthrope as if I was saying something that wasn't true when in fact your definition defaults to mine!

I saw this movie in the 1960s and I loved it. You will too, but maybe you have seen it already. Mondo Cane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5U8UbWqsk

GaryLouisSmith wrote:

You need to get in touch with reality, not a suburban dream. Mankind is a sado-masochistic thing and so are the gods he bows to. Get real, man.

I think it was you Gary who described Kali. I can see her everywhere. I saw the roses in my garden and they are the sex organs of the rose plants. Everything and nothing is guilty / innocent, selfish/unselfish, because everything is Kali. Kali is not evil but a man who refuses to look at Kali is evil. Conscience is the same as consciousness .

Belindi wrote: ↑August 27th, 2019, 3:58 am Kali is not evil but a man who refuses to look at Kali is evil.

I refuse to look and therefore I am evil. So be it. I don't consort with that bitch,

You can't help being Kali. You don't imagine you are above nature do you?

Belindi wrote: ↑August 27th, 2019, 6:18 am You can't help being Kali. You don't imagine you are above nature do you?

Yes

GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑August 27th, 2019, 6:37 am

Belindi wrote: ↑August 27th, 2019, 6:18 am You can't help being Kali. You don't imagine you are above nature do you?

Yes

Not all of us are enthralled by, dominated by, and have our very being in the Great Yoni.

I think you don't quite know what philosophers,poets, and scientists mean by 'nature'. Male and female sex organs are things of nature.