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[Vanillasky]

If Universe is Multiverse as per the modern quantum leap and particle entanglement theory , there are numerous copies of every individual in other galaxies or universe somewhere and I am enetangled with my replicas. My question if I am king in planet pandora (xyz) and a middle class white collar job person here, will my thoughts and ideas change with change in status in other universe.

Who will influence who? Is our mental status dependent on our position in some other universe?

[Eckhart Aurelius Hughes]

In what theory would you be entangled with your supposed replicas?

As I understand it, in large part from reading the July book of the month, "Many Worlds?", in the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics one would be entangled to their respective quasiclassical world while their 'replicas' would in contrast be entangled to their respective worlds, not to each other.

[Vanillasky]

Actually Scot I saw a a documentary "Nova: The Quantum Leap, Universe or Multiverse"and it presented that idea. I was wondering if my socio-economic and status in society is far far better in another universe will it affect my mental status, thought patterns and creativity over here.

[Steve]

Actually Scot I saw a a documentary "Nova: The Quantum Leap, Universe or Multiverse"and it presented that idea. I was wondering if my socio-economic and status in society is far far better in another universe will it affect my mental status, thought patterns and creativity over here.

The point about the multiverse is that there are very many different universes. If you are richer in some, you are also poorer in others. If your mind was influenced by them all pulling in different directions, you would probably go insane.

[Simply Wee]

We all influence each other, maybe each other in reality is the coming together, and time the dimension that hides the fact, that "me is we" Muhammad Ali. That outside reality, infinity becomes the present, "from infinity to beyond" From beyond to infinity. Reality and infinity have a thing going on.

[Vanillasky]

I have seen people around me and so it happens to me that we often don't feel like we belong here, in all types of respects, religion, culture, profession, ideology etc. We often don't talk about in in public since we have religious, social , cultural barriers and fear of social isolation or losing the job. Well I think may be the most eminent replica exerts his ideology on all others and we tend to feel not like ourselves sometimes.

[Eckhart Aurelius Hughes]

That seems like baseless conjecture to me. What evidence is there that not only are there other 'worlds' with replicas of you that interact with you in some apparent telepathic way? What reason is there to believe it is the case?

[Vanillasky]

I am sorry Scott , but we are discussing phylosiphy over here rather than pure factual science, there are assumptions that we live in a multiverse rather than universe among the scientists with possibilities of our own replicas in other universes. Actually I think unless we don't discuss bizarre and new creative ideas that may sound crazy or contradictory to facts or present science we won't be are indulging ourselves deep into philosophy.

Regards

[Eckhart Aurelius Hughes]

As I understand it, the scientific interpretations of which you vaguely reference not only does not support the idea that those replicas interact with you but actually contradicts it. The very idea of many worlds is based on the idea of fundamental separation let alone the utter lack of evidence that any seemingly magical interaction is actually taking place. Moreover, most scientists do not believe in the many world interpretation of quantum mechanics, but again that is a moot point since even the many worlds interpretation does not support the idea that the replicas interact with each other.

There is religion and baseless conjecture/speculation, and then there is science and then there is philosophy. Vanillasky, you are correct that neither of us wishes to discuss just pure science here. However, I do not believe these propositions fall into the field of philosophy either but rather baseless conjecture, more similar to religion than philosophy.

Actually I think unless we don't discuss bizarre and new creative ideas that may sound crazy or contradictory to facts or present science we won't be are indulging ourselves deep into philosophy.

It's one thing to discuss or contemplate an unbelievable hypothetical for the sake of argument. Indeed, for instance, in modal thinking we imagine all sorts of wild 'possibilities' as a means to understanding possibility and necessity, but we generally do not believe those possible worlds actually exist. However, I believe it is antithetical to philosophy to actually consider accepting such propositions as opposed to rejecting them on grounds of insufficient evidence/reason to believe.

Even if we temporarily pretend the replica-interacting-multiverse conjecture is true as a philosophical exercise, your questions about it cannot be answered because the answers cannot be found in the details given about this pretend world. It might be like me saying pretend there is a dragon on the far side of the moon, and I say ignore the fact that there clearly isn't a dragon there because this is philosophy, and then I ask does this dragon have 43 or less teeth or 44 or more teeth? How could you possibly answer? There is no dragon of which to investigate or of which to have teeth based evidence. My description is to short to try to deduce the answer from my false assumptions. It seems to me the same goes for asking how replicas interact with each other in an imaginary multiverse the likes of which no reasonable person has any reason to believe exists because of complete lack of evidence for this replica-interacting-multiverse.

[Stanley Huang]

Vanillasky asked: “If Universe is Multiverse as per the modern quantum leap and particle entanglement theory , there are numerous copies of every individual in other galaxies or universe somewhere and I am enetangled with my replicas. My question if I am king in planet pandora (xyz) and a middle class white collar job person here, will my thoughts and ideas change with change in status in other universe.

Who will influence who? Is our mental status dependent on our position in some other universe?”

Thank you for asking this question. To me, light reflected from you to another universe or to another planet may change if you change. So let’s say, this moment, you are in location x. Now, light reflected from location x to another planet from this moment is moving through time to another planet. Now, if you move to location y in the next second, then, the light reflected from you in location y at the next second will also travel to another planet same as before, and so, through the reflection of light from you, if strong enough, another person from another planet can see your changes in this earth.

Another interesting feeling I have is this: Space multiplication. I feel it is possible that there can be more than one space existing in one location. What am I talking about? Well, you may feel that one location can have only one space or one world. So to you, you may feel Japan is only one country. But to me, it is possible that the location Japan can exist more than one country.

So what I am saying is that one location can have many spaces. Where many countries exist in the same location. Because to you, you may feel that one person can only exist in one location. But to me, I feel one location can have more than one person. So it is space multiplication, where one location can have more than one object or one location can have more than one space.

To me, space is an object and I feel space can travel from one location to the next location. This is different to Newton, because Newton believed that space cannot travel. Newton believed that space is different to object. But to me, as a physicist, space is an object to me, and to me, one location can have more than one space.

You may feel this is strange. But let’s say. If you have a photo in front of you, the photo in front of you is taken at the year 2000. But now is 2012. So what is this saying? This is saying at this year 2012, you have the photo of you at year 2000. So the year 2000 can exist at this year which is 2012. Because the photo of you is the you at year 2000 existing at this year 2012. So this is saying that the year 2000 can exist at this year 2012. So this is saying the space of the past exists at the space of the moment. So this is saying two spaces can exist in one location. This is space multiplication, where there can be more than one space existing in one location.

[Vanillasky]

Dear Stanley, you do understand what I am trying to say and it's great to hear that you are perceiving the same ideas as i am but better elaborating them. I guess nothing is impossible and today's discussion might be the trigger to tomorrows discoveries. We should be talking about it, thanks to the blessing of internet we can interact with each other at great distances and share ideas.

[Stanley Huang]

Light is like a mirror. You can see yourself through a mirror. Light is just like that.

Where what is happening in this universe is reflected to another universe through light and because of light, another person in another universe can see what is happening in this universe.