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[Grecorivera5150]

Philohof,

These people are being educated to become mechanics they are not already mechanics. I would argue that if someone has to hire a mechanic and has three candidates that all have showed a similar skill level mechanically but one candidate stood out because of his/her ability to articulate the process and to show the potential to be innovative because of an open minded approach to what they would be set to task at that, that candidate would have a leg up on the others and would indeed be more likely to be innovative or advance into an administration level later down the road.

Corporations are all about efficiency and if they can get more bang for their buck they will.

Hi Grecorivera,

I think you would be right in an ideal world, but you are not right in our real one. Of course, you are right also in our real world in that corporations have to be innovative. But the problem is: An open-minded employee is always a competitor to his own boss. This is why mediocre people are likely to be more successful in professional life. Or, if they are not mediocre, they should often at least try to look mediocre, to keep their jobs. And here it is, where I see the problem with philosophy: The study of philosophy makes people eager to talking too much. In total, the disadvantages of studying philosophy seem to prevail the over the advantages.

Best wishes

I am sorry but your point of view is just lame and by lame I mean----

1) impaired or disabled through defect or injury: a lame arm.

2) weak; inadequate; unsatisfactory; clumsy: a lame excuse. 3) Slang . out of touch with modern fads or trends; unsophisticated.

We live in a world who's economic system is completely antiquated and ill equipped to move us forward as a species. Our oldest and biggest cities that are centers of commerce and business infrastructures are all built to run on energy resources that are finite. Human kind will need to be more open minded to survive weather you are a mechanic or a cobbler. A well rounded education for any individual will give much more potential to any individual living in an age when technology is advancing at such an immense rate and when the current systems we use are sliding into entropy at an equally alarming pace. So don't only look forward to taking your philosophy class but show up with bells on and take notes for goodness sake. Specialization in the modern world can be a plan A but if it is the only plan because the energy spent to move you past having the nature of an automaton seems unreasonable then you can be in for a world hurt. Following Philohof's point of view will no doubt lead many individual's to experience a crippling existential crisis when plan A is no longer an option.

[Philohof]

We live in a world who's economic system is completely antiquated and ill equipped to move us forward as a species. Our oldest and biggest cities that are centers of commerce and business infrastructures are all built to run on energy resources that are finite. Human kind will need to be more open minded to survive weather you are a mechanic or a cobbler.

Hi Grecorivera,

I totally agree with you about that. But I do not agree with the rest of what you say. One has to understand that the fact that innovation todays is very needed does not mean it is also wanted.

Following Philohof's point of view will no doubt lead many individual's to experience a crippling existential crisis when plan A is no longer an option.

Well, I would propose to suffer this existential crisis rather earlier than later. If you walk out into the world in a very naive manner, you might have to learn it the hard way afterwards. In my opinion, reading Dilbert comics is a good way to learn more about real work life situations. But many people do not take seriously what offers itself under the label of "humour".

The right way is to suffer the existential crisis and then to think about what you can build on this ground.

Best wishes philohof

[Grecorivera5150]

Many people do not survive their existential crises ,sometimes literally and other times mentally or spiritually. You can look at philosophy like taking your vitamins to fight off a cold except that it is critical thinking skills brought on through intense reflection on profound topics to help lesson the duration of negative impact of an existential crises. We all live and we learn, that is a given in my opinion. When we are presented with a lesson that kills us with its reality or cuts us off from care of the world it is because we lack thought experience.

[Gene16180]

Hi, everyone! May be my question is quite silly, but I realy don't understand. I'm student of faculty of mechanics and mathematics, and this year we have to study philosophy. Why? Will be that subject usefull in our future work and life? Or it can help us to understand the science in general?

Thanks!

For me, philosophy was this marvelous wrecking ball which completely shattered by childish beliefs and naive assumptions about the world. All that remained standing was a profound sense of awe and wonder. For that, I remain forever indebted. Although I am now studying neuroscience, the questions which drive and motivate me are in many ways philosophical.