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[FALCON]

To understand the universe, the world and everything that exists is must understand the functioning of the brain. But the brain is a tool of understanding that we have. Therefore to understand everything we must break the barrier of the brain, as before we broke the sound barrier

[Cronos988]

Therefore to understand everything we must break the barrier of the brain,

True, and impossible.

[FALCON]

The poetry, images, art will be the compass. Advance in the new territory of the aporia. Crack the aporia will open the margins and paradise

[PhilosophiliacEdward]

Therefore to understand everything we must break the barrier of the brain,

True, and impossible.

Why do you think it is impossible? We have made significant advances in neurobiology and the trend doesn't seem like it is slowing down any.

[Eckhart Aurelius Hughes]

What is the "barrier of the brain" and what does it mean to "break" it?

[PhilosophiliacEdward]

What is the "barrier of the brain" and what does it mean to "break" it?

I was assuming that the "barrier of the brain" is something like using a brain to understand a brain.

And I was also assuming that breaking it would be a complete understanding of how the brain works.

I realize now that they could mean something completely different though.

[Cronos988]

Why do you think it is impossible? We have made significant advances in neurobiology and the trend doesn't seem like it is slowing down any.

I rather took it as meaning that we have to break free from the constraints of our thinking. For example that we cannot imagine a state without time, we always think in terms of cause and effect, and we cannot see past the macroscopic world.

I don't see how we can ever break free from that, not even by evolution or technological advance. Those inhibitions define who we are. We cannot be human and break free from those limits at the same time.

[FALCON]

From its beginnings, the history of philosophy was argued in a contradictory dialogue between Parmenides and Heraclito. The version of the world based on the search for the truth through views and the other hand catch
the truth through a universal fire, called the heraclitano fire. The brain is an aporia because it begins and ends the thinking each time that you propose. You get tired, you don't have enough sense to provide data to your analysis. End of history, post-modern conclusion.

Or you're in the imaginary eras with the pyramid and the tunnels of Orion to wait for you to save or break the aporia. Which is the way: conformity or revolution?.

The revolution of thought and the development of the universe goes on par in the finite context. It is in with global evolution to be individual brain collective brain. Societies are currently being compared, and in the same way that we know when a brain is well endowed, societies are moving towards a pattern of stable behaviour. The polarity is not necessarily which gives sense to stability, is the confrontation and the clear democratic language. A new reading and writing will be soon. These are figures that reflect the human movement in societies and among them there will be dialogue.

[A Poster He or I]

...we cannot imagine a state without time, we always think in terms of cause and effect, and we cannot see past the macroscopic world...I don't see how we can ever break free from that, not even by evolution or technological advance. Those inhibitions define who we are. We cannot be human and break free from those limits at the same time.

I'm not sure that breaking free from the constraints of our thinking is necessary so long as expansion of the constraints continues. The 20th century was very exciting for how these constraints were forced to expand to accept the reality of concepts far beyond our ability to experience directly (e.g., quantum non-locality, special and general relativity). By accepting that these concepts are valid and working with them, we become beings who integrate them into our understanding of the world even though our acknowledgement of them is merely intellectual while any experience of them remains indirect.

In this manner we may indeed be evolving into a species who can work with concepts beyond sensorimotor-based empirical validation. I doubt that 9 out of 10 people understand the principles of a cathode ray tube or LCD display yet that doesn't stop them from taking for granted the magic of TV or computer graphics. In time, we may achieve a state where it is irrelevant to "see past the macroscopic world" simply because we live past the macroscopic world.

If some far-off day we are taking advantage of quantum non-locality to explore the far reaches of the universe without ever leaving our homes we will still be leveraging our brains without having had to "break free" of our brains. Yet by our very leveraging of non-locality we will have dispensed in a de facto way with naive concepts like linear time, cause-and-effect, and spatio-temporal extension that today seem hard-wired into our brain circuitry.

[FALCON]

...we cannot imagine a state without time, we always think in terms of cause and effect, and we cannot see past the macroscopic world...I don't see how we can ever break free from that, not even by evolution or technological advance. Those inhibitions define who we are. We cannot be human and break free from those limits at the same time.

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We cannot continue with these brain connections cause and effect. Because between the cause and effect there is a contradictory area and your link is a product of simplified human. It is right for you to say, that today brain connections system depends on ideas entirely related to the sense-motor trend of life, but I say that it is essential to explore the emergence of the basic outbreak (origin of everything): idea. Gestation. EVEN! The outbreak is accident resulting from the work on the zero. Success was achieved by Leibnitz infinitesimal calculus. Newton the same, with the theory of the Fluxions. Both sealed contradictory space. However continues to be necessary to review the causality of the outbreak: free breaking works as the beginning of a new State which gives space to a remarkable phenomenon that arises as an inspiration, but its promotion should be validated. The brain, seen in a momentous way is a small footprint of the universe where the work their potential by the intrinsic functions of temporal dynamics that are needed for the stability of the systems (is it’s another form of connection in the subjective). Because we have our own brain for this interpretation and with it is that we are entering the unknown, free break means the largest possible speculation, it is also the largest possible connection with the original design. There are many applications to obtain the free breakdown: Osmosis, anti-gravity, inexhaustible energy, universal language, etc. Some human beings may perceive the explicit knowledge of the free breakdown. Some understand this religiously, others will understand it scientifically, and others not cared because there is no need to make it clear, but will be beneficial in order to achieve a higher rung as a society, and will produce an atmosphere of collective peace and eliminate the sensory stress. It shall expire at last NO-purpose!. Conclusion: TIME under the influence of no-purpose makes no sense. Please, do not we can continue to be a universal ballast!. (The correct ethics for this dialogue is that exposed vision is valid if the other also is)