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[amorphos_ii]

The BBC IS biased, outdated and should be removed!

You would think that as the BBC is a socialist entity paid for by a forced subscription – which they refer to as ‘free’? That I would here be talking about a bias toward the left, but I am not. When labour got in power they all looked glum-faced as if the worst thing in the world had just occurred, then when Trump won the presidency, they couldn’t stop smiling. Mostly though, its the everyday convolutions in their behaviours that get me; they constantly let Tories and other capitalist puppets talk their inane drivel for as long as they want, or until my ears otherwise start bleeding. Then as soon as labour or liberals [and any lefties] start talking, they are not allowed to finish their first sentence before the newscasters/presenters rudely cut in.

the words they say may be apparently unbiased, but there is a lot more going on which the casual observer doesn’t see. Its they way they bark at people – so to say, with these pre-prepared answers, usually one liners, which outfox labour. This always disappoints me, as you would expect labour to have answers, but instead they are always sat there looking dumbfounded. You could say that, that, is unbiased, ...really! So all manner of biased and duplicitous individuals [capitalists etc] who are highly trained in politics and e.g. advertising, can work out these quick quips designed to outwit their adversaries on the left, are allowed to covertly add-in their propaganda and other argument, and this is what they call unbiased?

I say get rid of the BBC and don’t give their presenters jobs because they are incapable of doing their jobs properly. As an example of the contrast, the only time I have seen a presenter whom IS on unbiased when talking about labour, in on SKY news! The lady presenter spoke and was allowed to speak about what Kier Starmer has had to go through. She spoke of the recent loss of his brother, what a mess he inherited and how hostile people have been to him and his party. I think he is a proper decent chap and is doing the right things to make it better for ordinary people and indeed everyone.

Do I have to remind people that the Tories have told one of the biggest outright lies in our political history! They used brexit to remove us from the EU, I think so that the EU did not become richer that the USA. However, they did not stop immigration – the actual think everyone who voted for it actually wanted.

I think the solution is to keep the licence fee, but give us a basic sky subscription instead of the BBC! There are other providers, but the BBC helped pay for the startup costs of SKY, and seeing as the BBC don’t have any money of their own, that means we are the ones who paid said moneys toward SKY TV. Ergo it should be SKY TV who take over.

[Sy Borg]

It is unfair for a national broadcaster to favour one side of politics. The same issue exists in Australia with the ABC.

There was a time when national broadcasters were needed to help people in remote areas to stay in touch. Now that role has been taken by the internet. There is no rational or ethical case to maintain a national broadcaster beyond the absolute basics - broadcasting need-to-know information such as weather and traffic warnings. The BBC/ABC are redundant since The Guardian is already covering their angles.

With the variety of media voices available, the BBC and ABC's role is not to keep people connected but to inform people of the "correct" way to think. They feign objectivity, as if Marxism had not overrun much of academia, as if they were simply being "scientific". In truth, they are being academic in a blinkered way. The oppressor/oppressed model exists, but it's one dimension of multidimensional societies. The model the BBC espouses fails to appreciate - and celebrate - that some individuals are simply smarter, more talented, more reasoning, or simply better able to leverage power than others. Thus, hierarchies are inevitable.

However, the Beeb and Aunty focus on the oppressor/oppressed dynamic as if those who are rich and powerful had not earned it - as if anyone could do it, an should do it . Thus, about half of the population who don't think as they do are paying their taxes to be lectured at.

It's a shame. I used to love the ABC. Smart programs and no ads or hype. Alas, they drifted left and, worse, they become relentlessly preachy

[Fried Egg]

Do I have to remind people that the Tories have told one of the biggest outright lies in our political history! They used brexit to remove us from the EU, I think so that the EU did not become richer that the USA.

The EU was never on course for becoming richer than the USA, with or without the UK. Besides which, most Tory MP's at the time (and certainly the leadership) wanted to remain in the EU so your suspicion is baseless.

As for bias at the BBC generally, I think most people think they're biased and probably it varies from issue to issue, and certainly from your perspective as an observer. I've certainly read many articles that I think are clearly biased in one direction or the other, often if only in the way they frame the subject.

To be honest, trying to be neutral is probably an impossible task. It would probably be better if they clearly stated what their baseline beliefs were (both as an organisation and individual journalists) so we don't expect neutrality as it's an impossible goal.