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[Sy Borg]

Personally, I think that governments who bring in record numbers of migrants at a time when there are record low vacancy rates should be charged with criminal negligence. They are deliberately creating a pool of homeless to boost national GDP figures.

[LuckyR]

Personally, I think that governments who bring in record numbers of migrants at a time when there are record low vacancy rates should be charged with criminal negligence. They are deliberately creating a pool of homeless to boost national GDP figures.

Makes sense. What do you mean exactly by "bring in"?

[Sy Borg]

Personally, I think that governments who bring in record numbers of migrants at a time when there are record low vacancy rates should be charged with criminal negligence. They are deliberately creating a pool of homeless to boost national GDP figures.

Makes sense. What do you mean exactly by "bring in"?

We had a record intake of migrants exactly at the time when our vacancy rates were at record lows.

[LuckyR]

Personally, I think that governments who bring in record numbers of migrants at a time when there are record low vacancy rates should be charged with criminal negligence. They are deliberately creating a pool of homeless to boost national GDP figures.

Makes sense. What do you mean exactly by "bring in"?

We had a record intake of migrants exactly at the time when our vacancy rates were at record lows.

So legal immigrants. Do they typically have sponsors?

[Sy Borg]

Personally, I think that governments who bring in record numbers of migrants at a time when there are record low vacancy rates should be charged with criminal negligence. They are deliberately creating a pool of homeless to boost national GDP figures.

Makes sense. What do you mean exactly by "bring in"?

We had a record intake of migrants exactly at the time when our vacancy rates were at record lows.

So legal immigrants. Do they typically have sponsors?

I don't know. Maybe some of them do. All I care about are the numbers. If you have no vacancies, you don't take more people in until the situation is suitable.

[LuckyR]

Makes sense. What do you mean exactly by "bring in"?

We had a record intake of migrants exactly at the time when our vacancy rates were at record lows.

So legal immigrants. Do they typically have sponsors?

I don't know. Maybe some of them do. All I care about are the numbers. If you have no vacancies, you don't take more people in until the situation is suitable.

Out our way, the availability of housing is extremely variable, regionally. Thus some areas are awash in it and others are overrun in the homeless.

[Sy Borg]

We had a record intake of migrants exactly at the time when our vacancy rates were at record lows.

So legal immigrants. Do they typically have sponsors?

I don't know. Maybe some of them do. All I care about are the numbers. If you have no vacancies, you don't take more people in until the situation is suitable.

Out our way, the availability of housing is extremely variable, regionally. Thus some areas are awash in it and others are overrun in the homeless.

The chart here probably says it all for Australia: https://sqmresearch.com.au/graph_vacanc ... onal=1&t=1

See the correlation with the migrant arrivals chart: https://www.amp.com.au/insights-hub/blo ... ion-growth

[chewybrian]

Trump has announced plans to take the war against the homeless to the national level. He plans to make camping in any public space illegal across the entire country. He will create 'safe spaces' where the homeless could legally exist, with military guards and surveillance and some kind of access to counselling or job training. Any homeless holdouts attempting to maintain their independence under his system will be subject to being sent to for-profit prisons for disobeying, and subject to forced labor.

Every policy he's announced and every appointment he's made since the election has been worse than I could have imagined, but this is the topper so far. Of course, since the homeless are viewed as less than human by so many folks, it is also the least noticed of his stated intentions.

[Sculptor1]

Trump has announced plans to take the war against the homeless to the national level. He plans to make camping in any public space illegal across the entire country. He will create 'safe spaces' where the homeless could legally exist, with military guards and surveillance and some kind of access to counselling or job training. Any homeless holdouts attempting to maintain their independence under his system will be subject to being sent to for-profit prisons for disobeying, and subject to forced labor.

Every policy he's announced and every appointment he's made since the election has been worse than I could have imagined, but this is the topper so far. Of course, since the homeless are viewed as less than human by so many folks, it is also the least noticed of his stated intentions.

I suppose it was only a matter of time before the USA returned to slavery. It pretty much operates in US prisons to some degree already.
Given the current strangle hold that Twitter has over the minds of the people, traducing and vilifying the homeless as "lazy scum" will be no harder than trans being evil; and immigrants being the cunsumers of dog flesh.
Welcome to the fascist state.

[Mo_reese]

Trump has announced plans to take the war against the homeless to the national level. He plans to make camping in any public space illegal across the entire country. He will create 'safe spaces' where the homeless could legally exist, with military guards and surveillance and some kind of access to counselling or job training. Any homeless holdouts attempting to maintain their independence under his system will be subject to being sent to for-profit prisons for disobeying, and subject to forced labor.

Every policy he's announced and every appointment he's made since the election has been worse than I could have imagined, but this is the topper so far. Of course, since the homeless are viewed as less than human by so many folks, it is also the least noticed of his stated intentions.

I suppose it was only a matter of time before the USA returned to slavery. It pretty much operates in US prisons to some degree already.
Given the current strangle hold that Twitter has over the minds of the people, traducing and vilifying the homeless as "lazy scum" will be no harder than trans being evil; and immigrants being the cunsumers of dog flesh.
Welcome to the fascist state.

It wasn't just Jewish people that Hitler sent to the "camps" but also the mentally handicapped, homeless and protestors (dissidents).

Ask a capitalist if the "free market" for wages will lead to slavery and I think they would point out that when the wages get low enough the life expectancy drops and more people die off which would lead to fewer workers and higher wages. Currently I believe that the difference in life expectancy between the poor and the wealthy in the US is 15 years for men. The capitalists believe that people should work into their 70's with no retirement.

[Sculptor1]

Trump has announced plans to take the war against the homeless to the national level. He plans to make camping in any public space illegal across the entire country. He will create 'safe spaces' where the homeless could legally exist, with military guards and surveillance and some kind of access to counselling or job training. Any homeless holdouts attempting to maintain their independence under his system will be subject to being sent to for-profit prisons for disobeying, and subject to forced labor.

Every policy he's announced and every appointment he's made since the election has been worse than I could have imagined, but this is the topper so far. Of course, since the homeless are viewed as less than human by so many folks, it is also the least noticed of his stated intentions.

I suppose it was only a matter of time before the USA returned to slavery. It pretty much operates in US prisons to some degree already.
Given the current strangle hold that Twitter has over the minds of the people, traducing and vilifying the homeless as "lazy scum" will be no harder than trans being evil; and immigrants being the cunsumers of dog flesh.
Welcome to the fascist state.

It wasn't just Jewish people that Hitler sent to the "camps" but also the mentally handicapped, homeless and protestors (dissidents).

Ask a capitalist if the "free market" for wages will lead to slavery and I think they would point out that when the wages get low enough the life expectancy drops and more people die off which would lead to fewer workers and higher wages. Currently I believe that the difference in life expectancy between the poor and the wealthy in the US is 15 years for men. The capitalists believe that people should work into their 70's with no retirement.

.... and transsexuals, gays, gypsies, slavs, political opponents esp communists and socialists

Yes, we live in a time when lie expectancy has been dropping, reversing a long term trend of increase.

UK:Life Expectancy Difference: On average, the gap in life expectancy between the richest and poorest areas is around 7-10 years for men and 5-7 years for women. This varies by region and is typically higher in areas with more pronounced socioeconomic divides, such as parts of Northern England, where the difference can exceed 10 years.

USA: Life Expectancy Difference: The gap between the wealthiest and poorest Americans is approximately 10-15 years. Recent studies have shown that among the wealthiest 1%, life expectancy can be as high as 89 years, while in the lowest income brackets, it can be closer to 74 years.

This reflects the major change in economic theory instituted in the Pinochet/ Thatcher/Reagan era, in which the people were made to believe that unions and pay bargaining was considered to be an evil, and that laissez faire capitialism was now the new way to go.