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[Belindi]

And indeed increased leisure time and opportunities would help to calm the fury for economic growth.

There are those who would observe that this leisure time has to be paid for... And, in our AmeriCapitalist world, they're right. But actually, it's our AmeriCapitalist world that is wrong, and needs to be dismantled and abandoned ASAP, for the good of *all*. IMO.

But this is far away from art, good or bad.

We say "art". However there is art that is received by the art establishment on the one hand, and art from the popular culture on the other hand. The former typically costs a lot of money and is hung in posh galleries and performed in expensive concert halls and theatres, whereas the latter arises and arose on streets, brothels, cellars, back street halls, and garrets. quality high status art sucks its life blood from the popular culture versions.

All posh art originated in the popular culture. If you dispassionately observe religious people doing church rituals you can see popular dance, theatre, and music shining through

[popeye1945]

And indeed increased leisure time and opportunities would help to calm the fury for economic growth.

There are those who would observe that this leisure time has to be paid for... And, in our AmeriCapitalist world, they're right. But actually, it's our AmeriCapitalist world that is wrong, and needs to be dismantled and abandoned ASAP, for the good of *all*. IMO.

But this is far away from art, good or bad.

We say "art". However there is art that is received by the art establishment on the one hand, and art from the popular culture on the other hand. The former typically costs a lot of money and is hung in posh galleries and performed in expensive concert halls and theatres, whereas the latter arises and arose on streets, brothels, cellars, back street halls, and garrets. quality high status art sucks its life blood from the popular culture versions.

All posh art originated in the popular culture. If you dispassionately observe religious people doing church rituals you can see popular dance, theatre, and music shining through

Belindi.
EXCELLENT. Have you read, "Art as Experience." by John Dewy. You've got wisdom if not that experience of the book.