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...as commitment to parenthood for a man means 100% responsibility but no rights.

And the same for a woman, too, I think? This thread already approaches the line between discussion and misogyny; I think it's probably a good thing to avoid straying too close to that line, to retain thoughtful discussion, and avoid a descent into discrimination, and the arguments that will inevitably come with it.

Whatever minor disadvantages a man might suffer in the circumstances being discussed here, they are surely far outweighed by what still remains of male domination (i.e. most of it). A balanced approach here will reap dividends, I feel.

For a start, we seem to be discussing parenthood and the hardships it can lead to, without remembering that those hardships are part of raising a family. Instead of devoting your resources to yourself, and maybe your partner, you suddenly have to give priority to your offspring, which can be a huge change in many people's lives, men and women both. Parenthood is hard, and it can require significant sacrifice. Are men (or women) seriously considering raising a family, thinking it'll be easy and simple? I really hope not...

It is caddish manners to interject talk of problem B into a discussion of problem A. Had you started a thread about female problems and the other guy brought up male gripes, would you be understanding and balanced? Your needle is stuck into its narrative groove (a.k.a., mental rut.)

I think I have offered "understanding and balanced" argument. Everything has a context, and the context of human social male behaviour cannot avoid human social female behaviour, and the interaction(s) between the two, I don't think.