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#450513
If you drew a line through the universe, would it visit all locations?
Would it go everywhere [every place, location or point] and be virtually infinite?
Would it go everywhere in time!?
Would the ends ever meet? If they don’t then it can begin but never end?


Drawn from this post on my ‘other worlds’ thread.
Lagayscienza

information cannot not reach us from its edge (if there is one)

To my understanding everywhere is a/the centre, if you drew a straight line through it, then you’d have something akin to a ball of string. Consider then that we continue to draw the line on all tangents such that it went everywhere [still a straight line]. Now you have every part of the universe on said line, and nothing outside of it.
No reason why you cant then take another line and do the same thing! This time beginning at another epicentre of the infinite amorphous reality – that is to say the reality without or prior to the drawing of the lines, or in which the line of the universe exists/has been drawn.

I reckon both those lines could be equally physical/manifest, and without any interaction aside from that they both sit within the same original space!

Now I will make a jump in my reasoning; this universe we live in, is a manifestation of facets within the original infinite ‘space’.
So the given other line would be a manifestation of different facets from the same original infinite space. Different because its a bit like a jamboree box, you dip your hand into the sand and pick out a surprise. It stands to reason that you can’t do that twice, because you have already taken the prize ~ out of the box!

Ergo the second line will have different content and perhaps properties to the first. It could for example, absolutely BE ‘mind’. That mind would require ‘body’ or a space to exist it, but would not be bound by physicality. This because physicality has already been taken out of the box. Therefore it has its own line.

For each universal we could and I think should, draw a line or a facet or property of the line. So we could say that ‘time’ is a universal, but if it had its own line then it wouldn’t make sense, especially that we live in a universe which has time in some manner.

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How are dreams produced? What is consciousness? What is intuition?

The realm or ‘world’ of mind, has body. This body is a different toy in the jamboree box ~ to our physical body.

In druidry the dream realm or world, is the first manifestation of ‘body’. Then in the ‘middle earth’ it attains the aggregate of physicality ~ which is the ‘body’ of the universe/line. Finally – in terms of manifestation, we get the solar realm or world, and its body or forms can be seen in visions.

As a graph we would see a curve of manifestation from simple [dreams] to complex [nature] and on to the sophisticated and succinct [upper spiritual or soul-like [the Sahu to the ancient Egyptians].
#450720
Short answer: No! If the number of points in the universe is infinite, then the line, even if infinitely produced, can never reach a "last" point because the last point does not exist. Even if the universe were finite (which is probably not the case), it would still contain infinitely many points, and so the final point could never be reached.
#450835
Soz about the misquote Lagayscienza 


To get an infinitesimal point would require and infinite amount of energy, which the universe does not have, ergo we would be speaking of a metaphoric ‘point’ I assume. Perhaps the universe is infinite in that it is uncountable, and beneath say, higgs bosons is not a primary layer of points, but a space and one which folds in upon itself, such that there is no inside/outside of said space.

The line is imaginary or metaphoric, but is being drawn. Hence can travel to the most forwards ‘location’ [or area] in time, then keep on being drawn ~ penultimately reaching every location in perpetuation.

in which case it would reach all locations, possibly not future ones?

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