JackDaydream wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2023, 1:30 pmFree will and determinism have been the subject of a long debate in the philosophy of mind. I am aware of that and I was not interested to open another thread on this topic and instead open another thread. To elaborate we have three things when it comes to a decision in a situation: 1) An agent who makes the decision in the situation, 2) the situation that is defined by at least two options, 3) the act of free decision by the agent which leads to choosing one of the options. Now there are two important questions: 1) How could a deterministic agent be free? and How could options be real in a deterministic world? As you noticed and as I mentioned I am not interested in the first question but the second one.Bahman wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2023, 12:20 pmI simply don't understand where you are coming from if you don't see any connection between the issue of determinism and free will. I simply don't understand how you approach philosophy or whether you have read any philosophy at all. As it is, your thread for last month and this month are the most popular. I would certainly not wish to undermine your contributions but I feel so despondent when the thread of this month on a philosophy site appears to see determinism and free will as not related. I am not wishing to dismiss your ideas and endeavours, because it is likely that people find your views as far more interesting than mine, But, I do think that you need to read a little in philosophy in order to see how the relationship between determinism has a relationship with the philosophical issues of free will.JackDaydream wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2023, 11:47 amI am not interested in the connection between determinism and free will. I am wondering how all options could be real in a deterministic world considering the fact that only one state of affairs is permissible in the future given the current state of affairs.Bahman wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2023, 11:23 amI am not sure that your question makes sense, especially as you don't seem to see the connection between determinism and free will.
Ok, let me ask you this question: Is a human brain a deterministic object?
JackDaydream wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2023, 9:19 am The brain Is the wiring mechanism, and, on this basis, could be seen as an 'object' but it is all about processes and systems. There is the whole issue of physicalism and the question of free will, and determinism may be important in both areas of philosophy. But to view the brain as an object may to see it as detached from the imminent aspects of consciousness and the human experiences.No, I consider consciousness when I argue about options being real. I argue that the experience of options coincides with a delay in our physical activity and this cannot be a matter of chance therefore options are real. Determinists in fact argue that only one of the options is real and the other are illusions even if our experience of options seems real.
I hope that the things is clear now. By the way, I have a PhD in physics but left physics to study philosophy.