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[Viswa_01210]

What is the purpose of Religion, Theism, Myth?

Doesn't religion simply offer moral guidelines, aims, and maybe even purpose, in life?

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines,etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

[Stoppelmann]

Doesn't religion simply offer moral guidelines, aims, and maybe even purpose, in life?

Originally, religion was derived by Cicero from relegere "go through again" (in reading or in thought), from re- "again" (see re-) + legere "read" (as in lecture), and later from the Latin religionem (nominative religio) "respect for what is sacred.” It is the identification of what is sacred that gives us guidelines for protecting that, and in consequence moral teaching. Of course, people expanded on this meaning and based on OT scriptures it came to mean reverence for or fear of God, but also divine service, religious observance and in context conscientiousness, sense of right, moral obligation etc.

[Pattern-chaser]

What is the purpose of Religion, Theism, Myth?

Doesn't religion simply offer moral guidelines, aims, and maybe even purpose, in life?

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines, etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Perhaps because it's difficult to come up with such things independently, with no external input? A starting-point, such as a religion might offer, is more than helpful, IMO.

[Viswa_01210]

What is the purpose of Religion, Theism, Myth?

Doesn't religion simply offer moral guidelines, aims, and maybe even purpose, in life?

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines, etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Perhaps because it's difficult to come up with such things independently, with no external input? A starting-point, such as a religion might offer, is more than helpful, IMO.

Okay.
But, I feel (and deep religious scriptures themselves speak) that they are laid down to attain a "Goal" at End. Without a purpose of attaining that Goal, these are not laid down. I feel you might have read about that "Goal". Isn't it?

[LuckyR]

What is the purpose of Religion, Theism, Myth?

Doesn't religion simply offer moral guidelines, aims, and maybe even purpose, in life?

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines,etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Why? To offer such advice in trade for power.

Regardless of why the original inventor of a religion invented it, subsequent leaders within the religion used the heirarchy structure to acquire power, status and wealth.

[Viswa_01210]

What is the purpose of Religion, Theism, Myth?

Doesn't religion simply offer moral guidelines, aims, and maybe even purpose, in life?

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines,etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Why? To offer such advice in trade for power.

Regardless of why the original inventor of a religion invented it, subsequent leaders within the religion used the heirarchy structure to acquire power, status and wealth.

Yes, but it's due to such kind of people, not to hate Religion itself as such, as there lived Truly Compassionate One too by following it.
Ideas, in itself is not a problem, but the purpose for which one gets to conditioned with it is the problem.Original Inventors and True seekers intention and purpose were different from such Egoistic ones.

Intention/Purpose of why one sticks to such (The Root) is the main thing to be understood. And so, one may hate such Egoistic Guys and Be Goodness, but never have to hate Religions/Traditions.

[Pattern-chaser]

What is the purpose of Religion, Theism, Myth?

Doesn't religion simply offer moral guidelines, aims, and maybe even purpose, in life?

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines, etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Perhaps because it's difficult to come up with such things independently, with no external input? A starting-point, such as a religion might offer, is more than helpful, IMO.

Okay.
But, I feel (and deep religious scriptures themselves speak) that they are laid down to attain a "Goal" at End. Without a purpose of attaining that Goal, these are not laid down. I feel you might have read about that "Goal". Isn't it?

I'm not quite sure where you're going with this, but I would offer the well-known idea that it's the journey that matters, not the destination. In this case, an aim might be worthwhile only because it offers something to aim for/at. It might not be necessary to reach the 'goal', but only to head in its general direction? [In other cases, perhaps the aim might be meaningless unless we aim to achieve it, as you describe.]

[Viswa_01210]

What is the purpose of Religion, Theism, Myth?

Doesn't religion simply offer moral guidelines, aims, and maybe even purpose, in life?

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines, etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Perhaps because it's difficult to come up with such things independently, with no external input? A starting-point, such as a religion might offer, is more than helpful, IMO.

Okay.
But, I feel (and deep religious scriptures themselves speak) that they are laid down to attain a "Goal" at End. Without a purpose of attaining that Goal, these are not laid down. I feel you might have read about that "Goal". Isn't it?

I'm not quite sure where you're going with this, but I would offer the well-known idea that it's the journey that matters, not the destination. In this case, an aim might be worthwhile only because it offers something to aim for/at. It might not be necessary to reach the 'goal', but only to head in its general direction? [In other cases, perhaps the aim might be meaningless unless we aim to achieve it, as you describe.]

It offers End of sufferings, and also not bound to decaying useless body. This offering is accepted by mostly all of the religions.

Without a Destination, the Journey has no meaning to call it as a "Journey", but just an Endless loop.

First, one has to know towards why and what they are taking step to know, and after fixing that destiny, then the journey only matters. Without fixing a destination, it's just another delusion.

[LuckyR]

Doesn't religion simply offer moral guidelines, aims, and maybe even purpose, in life?

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines,etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Why? To offer such advice in trade for power.

Regardless of why the original inventor of a religion invented it, subsequent leaders within the religion used the heirarchy structure to acquire power, status and wealth.

Yes, but it's due to such kind of people, not to hate Religion itself as such, as there lived Truly Compassionate One too by following it.
Ideas, in itself is not a problem, but the purpose for which one gets to conditioned with it is the problem.Original Inventors and True seekers intention and purpose were different from such Egoistic ones.

Intention/Purpose of why one sticks to such (The Root) is the main thing to be understood. And so, one may hate such Egoistic Guys and Be Goodness, but never have to hate Religions/Traditions.

Sounds like we are in agreement that natural followers need a leader, whereas the self motivated don't get much out them

[Viswa_01210]

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines,etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Why? To offer such advice in trade for power.

Regardless of why the original inventor of a religion invented it, subsequent leaders within the religion used the heirarchy structure to acquire power, status and wealth.

Yes, but it's due to such kind of people, not to hate Religion itself as such, as there lived Truly Compassionate One too by following it.
Ideas, in itself is not a problem, but the purpose for which one gets to conditioned with it is the problem.Original Inventors and True seekers intention and purpose were different from such Egoistic ones.

Intention/Purpose of why one sticks to such (The Root) is the main thing to be understood. And so, one may hate such Egoistic Guys and Be Goodness, but never have to hate Religions/Traditions.

Sounds like we are in agreement that natural followers need a leader, whereas the self motivated don't get much out them

I feel not so. Natural Followers or Self Motivated, anyone needs a leader, as Self Motivated may fall into Egoistic Actions out of Ignorance and Misunderstandings. They too have much to get out of leaders, but as you say, they FEEL that "not get much out of them" because of Ego-Ignorance-Misunderstandings.

[Viswa_01210]

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines,etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Why? To offer such advice in trade for power.

Regardless of why the original inventor of a religion invented it, subsequent leaders within the religion used the heirarchy structure to acquire power, status and wealth.

Yes, but it's due to such kind of people, not to hate Religion itself as such, as there lived Truly Compassionate One too by following it.
Ideas, in itself is not a problem, but the purpose for which one gets to conditioned with it is the problem.Original Inventors and True seekers intention and purpose were different from such Egoistic ones.

Intention/Purpose of why one sticks to such (The Root) is the main thing to be understood. And so, one may hate such Egoistic Guys and Be Goodness, but never have to hate Religions/Traditions.

Sounds like we are in agreement that natural followers need a leader, whereas the self motivated don't get much out them

If Siddhartha (Gautama Buddha) were to seek a True Spiritual Guru like Sage Vasistha instead of Physical Renouncement, India/Asia would have been different by the words would be spoken out by Vasistha to Siddhartha and Siddhartha would have understood about the need of True-King for a nation like Rama understood. Rama was in situation same like Siddhartha was, and the slight difference of "seeking leader or not" changed the course of many Male and their Physical Renunciation and hatred upon Vedic tremendously affecting many families, etc.

[Viswa_01210]

True. Exactly. But, why? For what? In what intention laid out these guidelines,etc.? That's what I meant about "purpose". Why such guidelines in life?

Why? To offer such advice in trade for power.

Regardless of why the original inventor of a religion invented it, subsequent leaders within the religion used the heirarchy structure to acquire power, status and wealth.

Yes, but it's due to such kind of people, not to hate Religion itself as such, as there lived Truly Compassionate One too by following it.
Ideas, in itself is not a problem, but the purpose for which one gets to conditioned with it is the problem.Original Inventors and True seekers intention and purpose were different from such Egoistic ones.

Intention/Purpose of why one sticks to such (The Root) is the main thing to be understood. And so, one may hate such Egoistic Guys and Be Goodness, but never have to hate Religions/Traditions.

Sounds like we are in agreement that natural followers need a leader, whereas the self motivated don't get much out them

But, all those, are just Karmic Effects. Nothing to change them, and no such families can escape such course as it's only Individual effect and no Buddha is cause for such, just a Means/agent. A big Play of Desires and Karma and Play of Differing opinions/views of same.

[LuckyR]

Why? To offer such advice in trade for power.

Regardless of why the original inventor of a religion invented it, subsequent leaders within the religion used the heirarchy structure to acquire power, status and wealth.

Yes, but it's due to such kind of people, not to hate Religion itself as such, as there lived Truly Compassionate One too by following it.
Ideas, in itself is not a problem, but the purpose for which one gets to conditioned with it is the problem.Original Inventors and True seekers intention and purpose were different from such Egoistic ones.

Intention/Purpose of why one sticks to such (The Root) is the main thing to be understood. And so, one may hate such Egoistic Guys and Be Goodness, but never have to hate Religions/Traditions.

Sounds like we are in agreement that natural followers need a leader, whereas the self motivated don't get much out them

I feel not so. Natural Followers or Self Motivated, anyone needs a leader, as Self Motivated may fall into Egoistic Actions out of Ignorance and Misunderstandings. They too have much to get out of leaders, but as you say, they FEEL that "not get much out of them" because of Ego-Ignorance-Misunderstandings.

A common opinion of a natural follower. It is unreasonable to expect a follower to understand the situation of the self motivated. Or to put it another way: do leaders need leaders?

[Viswa_01210]

Yes, but it's due to such kind of people, not to hate Religion itself as such, as there lived Truly Compassionate One too by following it.
Ideas, in itself is not a problem, but the purpose for which one gets to conditioned with it is the problem.Original Inventors and True seekers intention and purpose were different from such Egoistic ones.

Intention/Purpose of why one sticks to such (The Root) is the main thing to be understood. And so, one may hate such Egoistic Guys and Be Goodness, but never have to hate Religions/Traditions.

Sounds like we are in agreement that natural followers need a leader, whereas the self motivated don't get much out them

I feel not so. Natural Followers or Self Motivated, anyone needs a leader, as Self Motivated may fall into Egoistic Actions out of Ignorance and Misunderstandings. They too have much to get out of leaders, but as you say, they FEEL that "not get much out of them" because of Ego-Ignorance-Misunderstandings.

A common opinion of a natural follower. It is unreasonable to expect a follower to understand the situation of the self motivated. Or to put it another way: do leaders need leaders?

Not One Single Leader is wise enough to choose right decision and action for every situation. They need support of a Group of Leaders (not Leaders but like Wise Sages and Ministers), to consider issue in every side for taking deep decisions related to threats upon Country, War, Judgements, etc.

But, in case of removing Ignorance of reality, One Leader who is well versed and All-time Peaceful is enough. This is not about Action but about Truth, so no need of consultation, as Every Religious Insightful views can lead one to Truth, so One Leader is Enough.

[Viswa_01210]

Yes, but it's due to such kind of people, not to hate Religion itself as such, as there lived Truly Compassionate One too by following it.
Ideas, in itself is not a problem, but the purpose for which one gets to conditioned with it is the problem.Original Inventors and True seekers intention and purpose were different from such Egoistic ones.

Intention/Purpose of why one sticks to such (The Root) is the main thing to be understood. And so, one may hate such Egoistic Guys and Be Goodness, but never have to hate Religions/Traditions.

Sounds like we are in agreement that natural followers need a leader, whereas the self motivated don't get much out them

I feel not so. Natural Followers or Self Motivated, anyone needs a leader, as Self Motivated may fall into Egoistic Actions out of Ignorance and Misunderstandings. They too have much to get out of leaders, but as you say, they FEEL that "not get much out of them" because of Ego-Ignorance-Misunderstandings.

A common opinion of a natural follower. It is unreasonable to expect a follower to understand the situation of the self motivated. Or to put it another way: do leaders need leaders?

It's true that a Follower cannot understand Self motivated, but a Leader can. Follower has a restricted view but not True Leader.