(2022) The Universe Is Not Locally Real, and the Physics Nobel Prize Winners Proved It
“Real,” meaning that objects have definite properties independent of observation—an apple can be red even when no one is looking; “local” means objects can only be influenced by their surroundings, and that any influence cannot travel faster than light. Investigations at the frontiers of quantum physics have found that these things cannot both be true. Instead, the evidence shows objects are not influenced solely by their surroundings and they may also lack definite properties prior to measurement.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... proved-it/
I've seen many discussions related to the question whether reality is really real. My experience has been that many users on this forum today are of the opinion that reality is really real and that consciousness is causally produced by 'the external world'.
A few days ago:
GE Morton wrote: ↑October 31st, 2022, 11:07 pmExplaining the existence of the "sensory facility per se" is precisely the purpose of "physicalist theory." It postulates an external world with mechanisms for producing conscious creatures. And it does a pretty good job of it.The idea that reality is really real is based on a magical belief that underlays ontological realism. It is the belief that objective reality is ultimately something non-disputable within any context of thinking.
An example:
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑January 26th, 2021, 11:29 am First, why would "what causes reality to exist" be necessary for knowing whether there is reality? (Keeping in mind that by "reality" here we're referring to the objective world.)Because without knowledge of 'why' reality exists, one can pose anything, from 'random chance' to 'illusion' to 'magic' to a simulation by aliens. Such a situation does not allow one to make a claim that poses that reality is 'real'.
Results of a 2020 PhilPapers Survey showed that 51.9% of academic philosophers believe in physicalism.
What Philosophers Believe: Results from the 2020 PhilPapers Survey
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An example (a philosophy teacher):
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 4:30 pmSo I'm a physicalist. I'm convinced that the mind is simply brain processes.
Yes and yes. I'm a realist and a physicalist (aka "materialist").
- Do you believe in intrinsic existence without mind?
- Do you believe that mind has a cause within the scope of physical reality?
Winners of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics:
- Alain Aspect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Aspect - John F. Clauser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Clauser - Anton Zeilinger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Zeilinger
What is your opinion on the Nobel Prize in Physics 2022 for research that disproves ontological realism?