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By Sculptor1
#421794
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 10:55 am
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 5:31 am What has God actually done wrong ?

He has pretended to exist when he does not.
Aside from that - just about everything.
You hope, because that is all you have at the end of the day like everyone else.
Hope has precisely NOTHING to do with it.
By Joshua10
#421800
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 12:06 pm
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 10:55 am
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 5:31 am What has God actually done wrong ?

He has pretended to exist when he does not.
Aside from that - just about everything.
You hope, because that is all you have at the end of the day like everyone else.
Hope has precisely NOTHING to do with it.
Why not, all you can do is hope that your statements are true.You definitely can’t definitively prove they are true or not true that’s or sure.
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By Sculptor1
#421803
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 1:03 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 12:06 pm
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 10:55 am
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 5:31 am What has God actually done wrong ?

He has pretended to exist when he does not.
Aside from that - just about everything.
You hope, because that is all you have at the end of the day like everyone else.
Hope has precisely NOTHING to do with it.
Why not, all you can do is hope that your statements are true.You definitely can’t definitively prove they are true or not true that’s or sure.
Why would it matter if they were true or false.
I have no particular interest if they are one way or the other.
"Hope" is meaningless.
By Joshua10
#421822
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 1:21 pm
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 1:03 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 12:06 pm
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 10:55 am

You hope, because that is all you have at the end of the day like everyone else.
Hope has precisely NOTHING to do with it.
Why not, all you can do is hope that your statements are true.You definitely can’t definitively prove they are true or not true that’s or sure.
Why would it matter if they were true or false.
I have no particular interest if they are one way or the other.
"Hope" is meaningless.
You can only hope that hope is meaningless.
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By Sculptor1
#421835
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 6:12 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 1:21 pm
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 1:03 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 12:06 pm

Hope has precisely NOTHING to do with it.
Why not, all you can do is hope that your statements are true.You definitely can’t definitively prove they are true or not true that’s or sure.
Why would it matter if they were true or false.
I have no particular interest if they are one way or the other.
"Hope" is meaningless.
You can only hope that hope is meaningless.
My only hope is that you stop making absurd comments.
By Joshua10
#421837
Sculptor1 wrote: September 6th, 2022, 5:30 am
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 6:12 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 1:21 pm
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 1:03 pm
Why not, all you can do is hope that your statements are true.You definitely can’t definitively prove they are true or not true that’s or sure.
Why would it matter if they were true or false.
I have no particular interest if they are one way or the other.
"Hope" is meaningless.
You can only hope that hope is meaningless.
My only hope is that you stop making absurd comments.
There is absolutely nothing absurd about my comments.If you meditated deep enough and with the right type of meditation rather than inward only “out of the moment” meditation you would realise the absurdity of your unaware claims.All you have is HOPE in one view or the other.You cannot make a claim one way or the other without definitive proof and you don’t have it.Until you do have it you reason in HOPE.

Don’t rely on the secular sciences either.Their single Big Bang theory is second hand ,yesterdays fake news.All reputable or non reputable sciences know this already but they are too embarrassed to admit it.They are still wiping the egg of their faces.

Tune into natures sciences.
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By Sculptor1
#421845
Joshua10 wrote: September 6th, 2022, 6:30 am
Sculptor1 wrote: September 6th, 2022, 5:30 am
Joshua10 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 6:12 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: September 5th, 2022, 1:21 pm

Why would it matter if they were true or false.
I have no particular interest if they are one way or the other.
"Hope" is meaningless.
You can only hope that hope is meaningless.
My only hope is that you stop making absurd comments.
There is absolutely nothing absurd about my comments.If you meditated deep enough and with the right type of meditation rather than inward only “out of the moment” meditation you would realise the absurdity of your unaware claims.All you have is HOPE in one view or the other.You cannot make a claim one way or the other without definitive proof and you don’t have it.Until you do have it you reason in HOPE.

Don’t rely on the secular sciences either.Their single Big Bang theory is second hand ,yesterdays fake news.All reputable or non reputable sciences know this already but they are too embarrassed to admit it.They are still wiping the egg of their faces.

Tune into natures sciences.
I'll tell you why you are so absurd.
You have tried to tell me what I am thinking and what I should be thinking.
You have done that for the last 3 or 4 posts, and have done that with never before knowing the first thing about me.

All the rest of it is verbal diarrhoea.
I hope you understand that, but think you will not.
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By Sculptor1
#421853
Joshua10 wrote: September 6th, 2022, 9:10 am
Hey,I am merely claiming that I don’t talk absurd nonsense which is what you stated.

Here are you comments and why they are absurd..


You hope, because that is all you have at the end of the day like everyone else.

This is absurd since you are assuming you know what another person is feeling.
I do not "hope". It's just not part of my vocabulary not my plans and goals.
I have a lot more than hope, and I am not "like everyone else".


Why not, all you can do is hope that your statements are true.You definitely can’t definitively prove they are true or not true that’s or sure.


How absurd can you get? I can do a lot more than hope. I have no need to know if you think my statements are true. Truth has its own way of emerging. And there are many ways to establish proof. And in this case I think I am better qualified to know the content of my own mind than you, who is incapable of knowing what I think.


You can only hope that hope is meaningless.

I can do a lot more than hope.
This is a self defeating statement, since hope is required to give meaning to it. And since I have no need for hope I am fully aware of the absurdity of your statement.

There is absolutely nothing absurd about my comments.If you meditated deep enough and with the right type of meditation rather than inward only “out of the moment” meditation you would realise the absurdity of your unaware claims.All you have is HOPE in one view or the other.You cannot make a claim one way or the other without definitive proof and you don’t have it.Until you do have it you reason in HOPE.

Don’t rely on the secular sciences either.Their single Big Bang theory is second hand ,yesterdays fake news.All reputable or non reputable sciences know this already but they are too embarrassed to admit it.They are still wiping the egg of their faces.

Tune into natures sciences.


This has nothing to do with what we are saying, and is full of unfounded assumptions about what you think about a stranger- me. It's also full of meaningless phrases. e,g, "Secular Science" is a tautology. And whoppdedo. The Big Bang is out of date, and "all" the sciences know it. This is all just confused nonsense from a person who does not know the meaning of science and its uses of cosmological theories.
All science is nature's science.
Jog on!
By Joshua10
#421859
Sculptor1 wrote: September 6th, 2022, 10:31 am
Joshua10 wrote: September 6th, 2022, 9:10 am
Hey,I am merely claiming that I don’t talk absurd nonsense which is what you stated.

Here are you comments and why they are absurd..


You hope, because that is all you have at the end of the day like everyone else.

This is absurd since you are assuming you know what another person is feeling.
I do not "hope". It's just not part of my vocabulary not my plans and goals.
I have a lot more than hope, and I am not "like everyone else".



Why not, all you can do is hope that your statements are true.You definitely can’t definitively prove they are true or not true that’s or sure.


How absurd can you get? I can do a lot more than hope. I have no need to know if you think my statements are true. Truth has its own way of emerging. And there are many ways to establish proof. And in this case I think I am better qualified to know the content of my own mind than you, who is incapable of knowing what I think.


You can only hope that hope is meaningless.

I can do a lot more than hope.
This is a self defeating statement, since hope is required to give meaning to it. And since I have no need for hope I am fully aware of the absurdity of your statement.

There is absolutely nothing absurd about my comments.If you meditated deep enough and with the right type of meditation rather than inward only “out of the moment” meditation you would realise the absurdity of your unaware claims.All you have is HOPE in one view or the other.You cannot make a claim one way or the other without definitive proof and you don’t have it.Until you do have it you reason in HOPE.

Don’t rely on the secular sciences either.Their single Big Bang theory is second hand ,yesterdays fake news.All reputable or non reputable sciences know this already but they are too embarrassed to admit it.They are still wiping the egg of their faces.

Tune into natures sciences.


This has nothing to do with what we are saying, and is full of unfounded assumptions about what you think about a stranger- me. It's also full of meaningless phrases. e,g, "Secular Science" is a tautology. And whoppdedo. The Big Bang is out of date, and "all" the sciences know it. This is all just confused nonsense from a person who does not know the meaning of science and its uses of cosmological theories.
All science is nature's science.
Jog on!
I would suggest that it’s fair to say that secular sciences single Big Bang theory was based upon unfounded assumptions then because it was a wildly speculative theory which is slowly being proven to be complete and utter nonsense.All science is natures science I agree and it’s all interconnected and natures science has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with secular science which the single Big Bang theory derived from.
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By Sculptor1
#421863
Joshua10 wrote: September 6th, 2022, 11:19 am
Sculptor1 wrote: September 6th, 2022, 10:31 am
Joshua10 wrote: September 6th, 2022, 9:10 am
Hey,I am merely claiming that I don’t talk absurd nonsense which is what you stated.

Here are you comments and why they are absurd..


You hope, because that is all you have at the end of the day like everyone else.

This is absurd since you are assuming you know what another person is feeling.
I do not "hope". It's just not part of my vocabulary not my plans and goals.
I have a lot more than hope, and I am not "like everyone else".



Why not, all you can do is hope that your statements are true.You definitely can’t definitively prove they are true or not true that’s or sure.


How absurd can you get? I can do a lot more than hope. I have no need to know if you think my statements are true. Truth has its own way of emerging. And there are many ways to establish proof. And in this case I think I am better qualified to know the content of my own mind than you, who is incapable of knowing what I think.


You can only hope that hope is meaningless.

I can do a lot more than hope.
This is a self defeating statement, since hope is required to give meaning to it. And since I have no need for hope I am fully aware of the absurdity of your statement.

There is absolutely nothing absurd about my comments.If you meditated deep enough and with the right type of meditation rather than inward only “out of the moment” meditation you would realise the absurdity of your unaware claims.All you have is HOPE in one view or the other.You cannot make a claim one way or the other without definitive proof and you don’t have it.Until you do have it you reason in HOPE.

Don’t rely on the secular sciences either.Their single Big Bang theory is second hand ,yesterdays fake news.All reputable or non reputable sciences know this already but they are too embarrassed to admit it.They are still wiping the egg of their faces.

Tune into natures sciences.


This has nothing to do with what we are saying, and is full of unfounded assumptions about what you think about a stranger- me. It's also full of meaningless phrases. e,g, "Secular Science" is a tautology. And whoppdedo. The Big Bang is out of date, and "all" the sciences know it. This is all just confused nonsense from a person who does not know the meaning of science and its uses of cosmological theories.
All science is nature's science.
Jog on!
I would suggest that it’s fair to say that secular sciences single Big Bang theory was based upon unfounded assumptions then because it was a wildly speculative theory which is slowly being proven to be complete and utter nonsense.
It is crystal clear that you know nothing about science.
I'm going to suggest that you have no idea what the assumptions were upon which the BB theory was developed.
Care to say what they were and why you think they are wrong??
I shall not hold my breath.
All science is natures science I agree and it’s all interconnected and natures science has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with secular science which the single Big Bang theory derived from.
That is a confused statement.
All science is secular and natural.
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