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[Sy Borg]

Ironically, the only way you can insult me online is via technology that makes use of gravity and electromagnetism. The theories have predictive power. You are not going to launch and run satellites through belief in God and your incoherent views on magnetism, which is simply airy-fairy chatter without substance.

[Jacob10]

Ironically, the only way you can insult me online is via technology that makes use of gravity and electromagnetism. The theories have predictive power. You are not going to launch and run satellites through belief in God and your incoherent views on magnetism, which is simply airy-fairy chatter without substance.

It isn’t airy-fairy though because magnetism is what makes things happen/work and not gravity.The sciences need to correlate with each other and gravity is not responsible for the detailed working of the brain.You don’t hear gravity mentioned in the workings of the brain do you but electromagnetism well that’s a different story.Electromagnetism is connected to the working of the brain and the workings of the universe.

You are completely unaware.

[Sy Borg]

Your repeated ad hominems are reflecting only on you. Do you believe that the forum rules do not apply to you because you are a Christian? Superior to us mere secular people and thus having no moral responsibility to conduct yourself appropriately here?

Actually, gravity does play a role in the brain's function, not that that has anything to do with the thread's premise.

In the early days of space travel, scientists worked hard to figure out how to overcome the force of gravity so that a rocket could catapult free of Earth’s pull in order to land humans on the Moon. Today, gravity remains at the top of the science agenda, but this time we’re more interested in how reduced gravity affects the astronauts’ health – especially their brains. After all, we’ve evolved to exist within Earth’s gravity (1 g), not in the weightlessness of space (0 g) or the microgravity of Mars (0.3 g).

So exactly how does the human brain cope with microgravity? Poorly, in a nutshell – although information about this is limited. This is surprising, since we’re familiar with astronauts’ faces becoming red and bloated during weightlessness – a phenomenon affectionately known as the “Charlie Brown effect”, or “puffy head bird legs syndrome”. This is due to fluid consisting mostly of blood (cells and plasma) and cerebrospinal fluid shifting towards the head, causing them to have round, puffy faces and thinner legs.

... So where does my research fit into this? Well, I think that certain parts of the brain end up receiving way too much blood because nitric oxide – an invisible molecule which is usually floating around in the blood stream – builds up in the bloodstream. This makes the arteries supplying the brain with blood relax, so that they open up too much. As a result of this relentless surge in blood flow, the blood-brain barrier – the brain’s “shock absorber” – may become overwhelmed. This allows water to slowly build up (a condition called oedema), causing brain swelling and an increase in pressure that can also be made worse due to limits in its drainage capacity.

Think of it like a river overflowing its banks. The end result is that not enough oxygen gets to parts of the brain fast enough. This a big problem which could explain why blurred vision occurs, as well as effects on other skills including astronauts’ cognitive agility (how they think, concentrate, reason and move).

https://theconversation.com/what-happen ... ity-106256

[Astro Cat]

Have you heard of common sense? There are two forces in the universe that are equal but opposite and therefore different.The 4 magnetic force interactions confirm this.The 4 combination interactions do not give the same result.Explain why not.You can’t,so you just dismiss it as irrelevant and in a nutshell that sums up secular science and why the gravity theory is an illusionary flowery math theory that nobody has a clue about.

The universe is saturated with electromagnetic fields that create big bangs and big crunches all the time so the single Big Bang theory is a load of nonsense and observations are confirming it.

To get electromagnetic fields you need spin to get the electrical input to get the electrical input you need electromagnetic fields.Things are spinning in the universe at the macro and micro levels i.e. stars,planets,sub atomic particles creating electromagnets that create electromagnetic forces that interact in the 4 possible ways i.e. 2 attractions and 2 repulsion’s which is all you need for push/pull force interactions which incidentally is what holds matter together and not glue as secular scientists speculate about.Glue?….really? funny.

Secondly,if your science makes no connection whatsoever to psychology and the workings of the brain/mind…..trash it…it ain’t worth the paper it is written on.Secular scientific theories make no connection in that respect.The issue science has is that it has no understanding of consciousness and it’s relevance to scientific theories.

I'm still curious how you think engineers make technology like the very computer you're typing on if physicists understand magnetics incorrectly, can you explain that?

[Jacob10]

Have you heard of common sense? There are two forces in the universe that are equal but opposite and therefore different.The 4 magnetic force interactions confirm this.The 4 combination interactions do not give the same result.Explain why not.You can’t,so you just dismiss it as irrelevant and in a nutshell that sums up secular science and why the gravity theory is an illusionary flowery math theory that nobody has a clue about.

The universe is saturated with electromagnetic fields that create big bangs and big crunches all the time so the single Big Bang theory is a load of nonsense and observations are confirming it.

To get electromagnetic fields you need spin to get the electrical input to get the electrical input you need electromagnetic fields.Things are spinning in the universe at the macro and micro levels i.e. stars,planets,sub atomic particles creating electromagnets that create electromagnetic forces that interact in the 4 possible ways i.e. 2 attractions and 2 repulsion’s which is all you need for push/pull force interactions which incidentally is what holds matter together and not glue as secular scientists speculate about.Glue?….really? funny.

Secondly,if your science makes no connection whatsoever to psychology and the workings of the brain/mind…..trash it…it ain’t worth the paper it is written on.Secular scientific theories make no connection in that respect.The issue science has is that it has no understanding of consciousness and it’s relevance to scientific theories.

I'm still curious how you think engineers make technology like the very computer you're typing on if physicists understand magnetics incorrectly, can you explain that?

They don’t understand magnetism correctly.If they did they would make better computers.

[Jacob10]

If scientists understood magnetism correctly then they would understand the workings of the universe including our physical bodies because it all operates due to electromechanical processes.

[Jacob10]

Tell me….at what point does a North Pole of a bar magnet become a South Pole? If you cut a bar magnet in half you get two bar magnets.

[Sy Borg]

Jacob, the thread is not "gravity is an impossibility". Even if it was, you would still be digging yourself into a logical hole so deep that the only way out is by digging in and continuing to pretend that you have have had a single thought about magnetism that had not occurred to the top physicists of the last century.

You don't know enough about physics to appreciate just how little you know. If you are actually interested in magnetism and not just trying attack secular thinking, may I suggest this as a primer: https://science.howstuffworks.com/magnet.htm

To understand the answers to these questions, it helps to have a basic definition of a magnet. Magnets are objects that produce magnetic fields and attract metals like iron, nickel and cobalt. The magnetic field's lines of force exit the magnet from its north pole and enter its south pole. Permanent or hard magnets create their own magnetic field all the time. Temporary or soft magnets produce magnetic fields while in the presence of a magnetic field and for a short while after exiting the field. Electromagnets produce magnetic fields only when electricity travels through their wire coils.

...

A compass needle isn't nearly as strong as many of the permanent magnets used today. But the physical process that magnetizes compass needles and chunks of neodymium alloy is essentially the same. It relies on microscopic regions known as magnetic domains, which are part of the physical structure of ferromagnetic materials, like iron, cobalt and nickel. Each domain is essentially a tiny, self-contained magnet with a north and south pole. In an unmagnetized ferromagnetic material, each of the north poles points in a random direction. Magnetic domains that are oriented in opposite directions cancel one another out, so the material does not produce a net magnetic field.

In magnets, on the other hand, most or all of the magnetic domains point in the same direction. Rather than canceling one another out, the microscopic magnetic fields combine to create one large magnetic field. The more domains point in the same direction, the stronger the overall field. Each domain's magnetic field extends from its north pole into the south pole of the domain ahead of it. In a magnet, most or all of the domains point in the same direction.

This explains why breaking a magnet in half creates two smaller magnets with north and south poles. It also explains why opposite poles attract -- the field lines leave the north pole of one magnet and naturally enter the south pole of another, essentially creating one larger magnet. Like poles repel each other because their lines of force are traveling in opposite directions, clashing with each other rather than moving together.

[Astro Cat]

I've long held that you can turn to any random page of Jackson's "Classical Electrodynamics" and have an aneurism, so to prove that I just googled the text and clicked on a random image.

Anyway my point is that what physicists know about magnetism is absurd in its depth, breadth, and complexity. The idea that playing with bar magnets of all things is something physicists somehow missed is sheer lunacy.

[Astro Cat]

Jackson does love his conductive spheres and half-spheres and sphere shells with varying potentials. I think I'm having flashbacks

[Sy Borg]

I'm still struggling through the How Stuff Works link I gave to Jacob, thanks :)

In a pluralist society with increasing specialisation, ever more trust is needed in the specialist expertise of others, eg. catching a plane, relying on a GPS. There are problems with specialisation, such as siloing and limited perspectives, but these are well known, and there is more cross-pollination between disciplines than in the past, including a field I always felt needed more love - geobiology.

Abiogenesis cannot be understood without considering the chemical evolution that preceded it. There were probably numerous cells emerging that had some qualities of life (as we know it), but not others. Then LUCA was able to sustain itself long enough to successfully reproduce - and, I expect, it ate and/or out-competed its emerging competition.

In today's milieu, abiogenesis would be impossible. Any fragile emerging life form would almost immediately be someone's lunch.

[Jacob10]

Jacob, the thread is not "gravity is an impossibility". Even if it was, you would still be digging yourself into a logical hole so deep that the only way out is by digging in and continuing to pretend that you have have had a single thought about magnetism that had not occurred to the top physicists of the last century.

You don't know enough about physics to appreciate just how little you know. If you are actually interested in magnetism and not just trying attack secular thinking, may I suggest this as a primer: https://science.howstuffworks.com/magnet.htm

To understand the answers to these questions, it helps to have a basic definition of a magnet. Magnets are objects that produce magnetic fields and attract metals like iron, nickel and cobalt. The magnetic field's lines of force exit the magnet from its north pole and enter its south pole. Permanent or hard magnets create their own magnetic field all the time. Temporary or soft magnets produce magnetic fields while in the presence of a magnetic field and for a short while after exiting the field. Electromagnets produce magnetic fields only when electricity travels through their wire coils.

...

A compass needle isn't nearly as strong as many of the permanent magnets used today. But the physical process that magnetizes compass needles and chunks of neodymium alloy is essentially the same. It relies on microscopic regions known as magnetic domains, which are part of the physical structure of ferromagnetic materials, like iron, cobalt and nickel. Each domain is essentially a tiny, self-contained magnet with a north and south pole. In an unmagnetized ferromagnetic material, each of the north poles points in a random direction. Magnetic domains that are oriented in opposite directions cancel one another out, so the material does not produce a net magnetic field.

In magnets, on the other hand, most or all of the magnetic domains point in the same direction. Rather than canceling one another out, the microscopic magnetic fields combine to create one large magnetic field. The more domains point in the same direction, the stronger the overall field. Each domain's magnetic field extends from its north pole into the south pole of the domain ahead of it. In a magnet, most or all of the domains point in the same direction.

This explains why breaking a magnet in half creates two smaller magnets with north and south poles. It also explains why opposite poles attract -- the field lines leave the north pole of one magnet and naturally enter the south pole of another, essentially creating one larger magnet. Like poles repel each other because their lines of force are traveling in opposite directions, clashing with each other rather than moving together.

But gravity is an impossibility.It was only invented on paper and still remains there on the paper.It was a figment of a scientist imagination.You cannot cancel out the electromagnetic forces of nature.Mistaken scientists didn’t understand this fact when gravity was invented and they still don’t understand it now.They are mistaking gravity for magnetism.

Electromechanical systems is what makes everything work in the universe including the physical body/brain.

Sine waves “toggle” between + and - giving a toggling 0 and 1 logic.

Therefore the equation is, toggling 0/1 = toggling 0/1 which gives the 4 magnetic force interactions of 0,0…0,1…1,0…1,1 on both sides of the equation.

[Sy Borg]

Jacob, the thread is not "gravity is an impossibility". Even if it was, you would still be digging yourself into a logical hole so deep that the only way out is by digging in and continuing to pretend that you have have had a single thought about magnetism that had not occurred to the top physicists of the last century.

You don't know enough about physics to appreciate just how little you know. If you are actually interested in magnetism and not just trying attack secular thinking, may I suggest this as a primer: https://science.howstuffworks.com/magnet.htm

To understand the answers to these questions, it helps to have a basic definition of a magnet. Magnets are objects that produce magnetic fields and attract metals like iron, nickel and cobalt. The magnetic field's lines of force exit the magnet from its north pole and enter its south pole. Permanent or hard magnets create their own magnetic field all the time. Temporary or soft magnets produce magnetic fields while in the presence of a magnetic field and for a short while after exiting the field. Electromagnets produce magnetic fields only when electricity travels through their wire coils.

...

A compass needle isn't nearly as strong as many of the permanent magnets used today. But the physical process that magnetizes compass needles and chunks of neodymium alloy is essentially the same. It relies on microscopic regions known as magnetic domains, which are part of the physical structure of ferromagnetic materials, like iron, cobalt and nickel. Each domain is essentially a tiny, self-contained magnet with a north and south pole. In an unmagnetized ferromagnetic material, each of the north poles points in a random direction. Magnetic domains that are oriented in opposite directions cancel one another out, so the material does not produce a net magnetic field.

In magnets, on the other hand, most or all of the magnetic domains point in the same direction. Rather than canceling one another out, the microscopic magnetic fields combine to create one large magnetic field. The more domains point in the same direction, the stronger the overall field. Each domain's magnetic field extends from its north pole into the south pole of the domain ahead of it. In a magnet, most or all of the domains point in the same direction.

This explains why breaking a magnet in half creates two smaller magnets with north and south poles. It also explains why opposite poles attract -- the field lines leave the north pole of one magnet and naturally enter the south pole of another, essentially creating one larger magnet. Like poles repel each other because their lines of force are traveling in opposite directions, clashing with each other rather than moving together.

But gravity is an impossibility.It was only invented on paper and still remains there on the paper.It was a figment of a scientist imagination.You cannot cancel out the electromagnetic forces of nature.Mistaken scientists didn’t understand this fact when gravity was invented and they still don’t understand it now.They are mistaking gravity for magnetism.

Electromechanical systems is what makes everything work in the universe including the physical body/brain.

Sine waves “toggle” between + and - giving a toggling 0 and 1 logic.

Therefore the equation is, toggling 0/1 = toggling 0/1 which gives the 4 magnetic force interactions of 0,0…0,1…1,0…1,1 on both sides of the equation.

Your toggling comments make no sense. Most waves in nature are not sine waves but a complex blend of frequencies.

Much technology has been developed that relies on general relativity (Einstein's theory that posits gravity). If relativity was false, the technology wouldn't work. By contrast, any device based on your ideas and ignores gravity simply would not work. Relativity has been confirmed thousands of times in numerous different ways. There is no debate, the facts are in.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tv ... relativity

I don't understand your objection to gravity. It is clear that you know nothing at all about physics, so it hardly makes sense for you to be passionately contesting its tenets. It's akin to thinking you can fly a plane better than a pilot without training because you believe the training to be based on false principles.

[Jacob10]

Jacob, the thread is not "gravity is an impossibility". Even if it was, you would still be digging yourself into a logical hole so deep that the only way out is by digging in and continuing to pretend that you have have had a single thought about magnetism that had not occurred to the top physicists of the last century.

You don't know enough about physics to appreciate just how little you know. If you are actually interested in magnetism and not just trying attack secular thinking, may I suggest this as a primer: https://science.howstuffworks.com/magnet.htm

To understand the answers to these questions, it helps to have a basic definition of a magnet. Magnets are objects that produce magnetic fields and attract metals like iron, nickel and cobalt. The magnetic field's lines of force exit the magnet from its north pole and enter its south pole. Permanent or hard magnets create their own magnetic field all the time. Temporary or soft magnets produce magnetic fields while in the presence of a magnetic field and for a short while after exiting the field. Electromagnets produce magnetic fields only when electricity travels through their wire coils.

...

A compass needle isn't nearly as strong as many of the permanent magnets used today. But the physical process that magnetizes compass needles and chunks of neodymium alloy is essentially the same. It relies on microscopic regions known as magnetic domains, which are part of the physical structure of ferromagnetic materials, like iron, cobalt and nickel. Each domain is essentially a tiny, self-contained magnet with a north and south pole. In an unmagnetized ferromagnetic material, each of the north poles points in a random direction. Magnetic domains that are oriented in opposite directions cancel one another out, so the material does not produce a net magnetic field.

In magnets, on the other hand, most or all of the magnetic domains point in the same direction. Rather than canceling one another out, the microscopic magnetic fields combine to create one large magnetic field. The more domains point in the same direction, the stronger the overall field. Each domain's magnetic field extends from its north pole into the south pole of the domain ahead of it. In a magnet, most or all of the domains point in the same direction.

This explains why breaking a magnet in half creates two smaller magnets with north and south poles. It also explains why opposite poles attract -- the field lines leave the north pole of one magnet and naturally enter the south pole of another, essentially creating one larger magnet. Like poles repel each other because their lines of force are traveling in opposite directions, clashing with each other rather than moving together.

But gravity is an impossibility.It was only invented on paper and still remains there on the paper.It was a figment of a scientist imagination.You cannot cancel out the electromagnetic forces of nature.Mistaken scientists didn’t understand this fact when gravity was invented and they still don’t understand it now.They are mistaking gravity for magnetism.

Electromechanical systems is what makes everything work in the universe including the physical body/brain.

Sine waves “toggle” between + and - giving a toggling 0 and 1 logic.

Therefore the equation is, toggling 0/1 = toggling 0/1 which gives the 4 magnetic force interactions of 0,0…0,1…1,0…1,1 on both sides of the equation.

Your toggling comments make no sense. Most waves in nature are not sine waves but a complex blend of frequencies.

Much technology has been developed that relies on general relativity (Einstein's theory that posits gravity). If relativity was false, the technology wouldn't work. By contrast, any device based on your ideas and ignores gravity simply would not work. Relativity has been confirmed thousands of times in numerous different ways. There is no debate, the facts are in.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tv ... relativity

I don't understand your objection to gravity. It is clear that you know nothing at all about physics, so it hardly makes sense for you to be passionately contesting its tenets. It's akin to thinking you can fly a plane better than a pilot without training because you believe the training to be based on false principles.

There is vibration in the universe.This vibration is as a result of push/pull magnetic forces and not gravity.This is where the gravity theory totally falls down.

There are interactions happening in the universe between electromagnetic field sine waves and electrical signal sine waves.These push/pull forces are what keeps matter together.

Please explain why we get different magnetic force interactions when we bring 2 magnets together in their 4 possible interactions?

You can’t just say…that doesn’t matter.Why doesn’t it matter?It is a fundamental issue that science cannot explain and definitively proves that the gravity theory is a load of nonsense.

[Jacob10]

I repeat, the same sine wave whether it be an electromagnetic field or and electrical signal toggles between the 0 and 1 or + and - states during their interactions.Science is not taking this into account.