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[butimfeeling2022]

Hi all,

when a solution to a problem appears, it is easy to verify that solution solves the problem, or you would have another problem and not a solution, no?



Consider the below problem

Pick a coin choose a side and flip it as freely as you want to live.

After you can guess the side the coin ends up facing you right all the time and regardless of the time and space you live, I have a question for you.

Why didn't you come here now to tell me about it stop writing before I finish this question here?

The above is a problem whose solution is easy to verify for correctness, but the problem isn't easy to solve, no?

Because if any problem was easy to solve, someone could predict the future, but next doesn't happen next in imagination really, next happens next in reality.

In case you are wondering why next doesn't happen next in your imagination, if you had a problem with me writing the above, why didn't you come earlier to tell me about it?

What, you thought I might be afraid to face you prophet?

Nah, this isn't what seems to be happening prophet, something else is happening here...


Another way to explain...

1.You are asking, if the solution to a problem is easy to check for

correctness, must the problem be easy to solve?

2. When a solution for the problem appears it is easy to check that

this solution solves the problem, or else you would have

another problem, and not really a solution.

3. A problem needs to start a path in time and space which ends

with a solution for this problem, in order for the problem to be

solved in time and space, or else all paths in time and space

with a beginning, a middle, and an end wouldn’t solve this

problem.

4. if it is easy to solve…

5. it is easy to check that the solutions solve the problem, or you’d

have more problems,

6. or you didn’t find this path… … so pick a coin, choose a side, and flip it as freely as you want

to live.

7. After you can guess the side the coin ends up facing you right all

the time, I have a question for you.

8. Why didn’t you come here to tell me about it now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_versus_NP_problem

[AverageBozo]

When the solution to a problem appears, no matter how difficult it was to come upon that solution, no matter how many unverifiable “solutions” were found in the interim, that final verifiable solution to the original problem may have been hard or easy to come by.

[AverageBozo]

And no matter how hard or easy it had been to come by unverifiable interim solutions, it could be hard or easy to verify the final solution.

[AverageBozo]

…if any problem was easy to solve, someone could predict the future…

In this case it cannot be just any problem that fulfills the necessary and sufficient criteria for being able to predict the future.

The correct conditions should be that every problem is easy to solve, and that predicting the future is a problem to be solved.

[butimfeeling2022]

When the solution to a problem appears, no matter how difficult it was to come upon that solution, no matter how many unverifiable “solutions” were found in the interim, that final verifiable solution to the original problem may have been hard or easy to come by.

player, the verifiable solution may be hard to come by, but once you find it, it is easy to verify that it solves the problem, plus...

...it is easy to verify who doesn't understand what the hell they are talking about, as their solutions are not that easy to verify...

...their solutions need their majesty to verify the solutions, common folks cannot do that.

[butimfeeling2022]

What?
A solution for a problem is easy to verify that it solves that problem, or else you'd have more problems, but a problem doesn't have to be easy to solve.
For example what money really does in the economy, isn't an easy problem to solve, but it is easy to verify the solution to that problem.

Why?
Imagine you do the same thing with the same amount of money twice from its beginning until its end , but one of the times that it takes you more time and effort.
Would you choose again and again to do it when it takes you more time and effort to do it with the same amount of money, doing the same thing?

How?
https://www.facebook.com/AlexandrosTsolis/

[Sy Borg]

Thread locked due to constant personal insults.