Whitedragon wrote: ↑December 11th, 2016, 8:41 am
So many debates gravitate around the degrading of the Lord. In our attempts to disprove him or discredit him, we find some satisfaction. These questions and accusations bring us to a new question, what has he actually done wrong?
God-in-the-highest can do no wrong. Well, it might be said that none do wrong because all move entropically in line with the flow of the universe, as required person thermodynamic constraints... So, what are your definitions of right and wrong?
Whitedragon wrote: ↑December 11th, 2016, 8:41 amWhen we look at an imperfect world and all the pain and sorrow that goes along with it; we often say then he cannot exist. Looking at the story of Adam and Eve, we find why our world is broken. If we go from that story, we find that things were perfect, but that we were not satisfied enough with it. Somehow, we managed to not only doom that perfection, but also put continuity in it. In a world that is doomed, should it not be strange when something goes right, rather when something goes wrong?
There is a difference between YHWH (B166-ER's transformed self, if I "understand" correctly) and God-in-the-highest.
Whitedragon wrote: ↑December 11th, 2016, 8:41 amMainly, the Bible tells us how to live our lives right. It is concerned with our safety and protection and seemingly, that is what the crux of the book is. Despite this good intention, (of a book that is looking out for us), we are so unsatisfied with the Lord and the book, that we find it necessary to degrade and attack both. Why do we reward good intentions with anger and disbelief?
No, the Bible does not do that. No, it's not. It does not have good intention. Jesus seems to refer to the Lord as being God-in-the-highest, of whom would be different from the Jewish God [arc of the covenant god that zapped people for accidentally(?) dropping it].
The Bible is non-sense. Use it as firewood, office paper, toilet paper (I did), etc...
Whitedragon wrote: ↑December 11th, 2016, 8:41 amReading the Word correctly is what is important. History is not instruction, but rather like drama, which we can choose not to adopt in our lives; yet people see everything in it as instruction, rather than life lessons to learn. They take the worse things out of context, rather choosing to focus on the story and so losing the message.
I find it interesting that I have to undo your brainwashing, your conditioning and neurolinguistic programming related to your reward areas of your nervous system.
There is no choice.
Book of Ecclesiastes: Chapter 1, verse 9:
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.
Please study physics and the philosophy of time. Ecclesiastes was an eternalist (believed in the philosophy of eternalism), in my opinion.
Whitedragon wrote: ↑December 11th, 2016, 8:41 amSo the question in this thread is, what has the Lord actually done wrong, since his main goal was always to keep us safe. He is practical in all things, there does not seem to be anything abstract when it comes to sin, but we can always rather find some logical explanation why any sin is “wrong.” “Sin” and “wrong,” seem to be outdated words, which need reforming in order to demonstrate its practical value. So again, what has the Lord actually done wrong?
Mmm. I remember one time texting my ex-girlfriend that I look out for number 1. I think rational egoism is a real thing. People look out for others only in so far that it helps their own interest. I remember reading about the prisoner's dilemma supposedly being a rebuttal to such; but whatever I saw about that, I saw a flaw. I don't feel like going through all of it again.
All sin leads to death. If one has sinned, one is to die. Did Adam and Eve immediately die? No, they did not.