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[Sculptor1]

Massively underrated band. Love em.

They were great weren't they. Boston Tea Party was a quirky song for a Scottish band to sing.

So WTF does "FUGAZI " mean?

It sounds to me like an insult that a stereotypical Sopranos-style Italian-American mafia crime family member would fling at another mobster. Probably with a hand gesture.

If you love SAHB you should check out their version of Jacque Brell's "NEXT".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vaLi9W6HRc

Harvey died aged 47 - A life burned at both ends. Burns the brightest!

[Sculptor1]

The guys that supported and played MUSIC, whilst PUNK ROCK was the latest thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aI9k06 ... GNqh6UF6on

[Steve3007]

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Great rendition of Fire and Rain. Sweet Baby James by James Taylor is a great album.

[Steve3007]

FYI: "die Unendlichkeit" = "Infinity"

I notice that "keit" means "speed". So does that specifically mean infinite speed?
(Great song, by the way. The vocal sound reminds me strangely of Lloyd Cole.)

[Papus79]

[chewybrian]

These lip-synching muppets are one of my all-time favorites...

I'm not sure if you intended for that comment to come before an orchestra doing a rendition of "The Ecstasy of Gold" from The Good the Bad and the Ugly. But great choice and, as the Count said, R.I.P. Ennio Morricone.

To me, The Good the Bad and The Ugly is that score. When I hear it I see that fantastic scene in which the film spends about 3 weeks (or so it seems) just cutting between close ups of Clint Eastwood's, Lee Van Cleef's and Eli Wallach's eyes.

[Consul]

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"Fugazi’s name is a tongue-in-cheek reference to the Vietnam War, the federal arms of DC and Paris’ greatest collaborative failure. MacKaye, Picciotto, Lally, and Canty, all born between 1960 and 1965, came up in an America growing exhausted with its overreaching military and the veritable lost generation it was creating out of the baby boomers. The members lived and went to school mere miles from where Presidents Johnson and Nixon signed off on fateful decisions that resulted in the death and traumatization of millions. Even to the kids who would later become punks in a city unknown for its musical counterculture, political resistance was closely tied to music.

“The Vietnam War was central in my consciousness as a child,” said MacKaye. “My parents were anti-war, we had a lot of anti-war protestors who would stay at our house. And the rock n’ roll world was tied in with that. So I did a lot of studying of ’60s culture... [reading] Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin and Emmett Grogan... I think people forget with all the underground stuff that was going on then, just how crazy and horrific and savage and pointless that war was.”

MacKaye landed on the name for his new band in the summer of 1987, the by-product of a lengthy obsession with Vietnam War stories and documentaries. One book that he was reading at the time, Nam by Mark Baker (1981), had the word fugazi in the glossary defined as “a f#cked-up situation.” Similar were the terms snafu (situation normal, all f#cked up) and fubar (f#cked up beyond all recognition/repair), popularized among World War II soldiers. Surprisingly, MacKaye and the band would actually need to go to Southeast Asia to discover their name’s actual entomology. On November 8, 1996, Fugazi played a show in Singapore at a club called Fire. A teenage girl named Venita and her younger brother approached the band as they broke down after their set. Her brother asked what Fugazi stands for, and before the musicians could reply that they were unsure, Venita said, “f#cked up, got ambushed, zipped in.” That was the first time MacKaye had ever heard it spelled out, and the band had existed for almost a decade."

(Sonnichsen, Tyler. Capitals of Punk: DC, Paris, and Circulation in the Urban Underground. Singapore: Palgrave Macmillan, 2019. p. 120)
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[Sculptor1]

So WTF does "FUGAZI " mean?/quote]

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"Fugazi’s name is a tongue-in-cheek reference to the Vietnam War, the federal arms of DC and Paris’ greatest collaborative failure. MacKaye, Picciotto, Lally, and Canty, all born between 1960 and 1965, came up in an America growing exhausted with its overreaching military and the veritable lost generation it was creating out of the baby boomers. The members lived and went to school mere miles from where Presidents Johnson and Nixon signed off on fateful decisions that resulted in the death and traumatization of millions. Even to the kids who would later become punks in a city unknown for its musical counterculture, political resistance was closely tied to music.

“The Vietnam War was central in my consciousness as a child,” said MacKaye. “My parents were anti-war, we had a lot of anti-war protestors who would stay at our house. And the rock n’ roll world was tied in with that. So I did a lot of studying of ’60s culture... [reading] Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin and Emmett Grogan... I think people forget with all the underground stuff that was going on then, just how crazy and horrific and savage and pointless that war was.”

MacKaye landed on the name for his new band in the summer of 1987, the by-product of a lengthy obsession with Vietnam War stories and documentaries. One book that he was reading at the time, Nam by Mark Baker (1981), had the word fugazi in the glossary defined as “a f#cked-up situation.” Similar were the terms snafu (situation normal, all f#cked up) and fubar (f#cked up beyond all recognition/repair), popularized among World War II soldiers. Surprisingly, MacKaye and the band would actually need to go to Southeast Asia to discover their name’s actual entomology. On November 8, 1996, Fugazi played a show in Singapore at a club called Fire. A teenage girl named Venita and her younger brother approached the band as they broke down after their set. Her brother asked what Fugazi stands for, and before the musicians could reply that they were unsure, Venita said, “f#cked up, got ambushed, zipped in.” That was the first time MacKaye had ever heard it spelled out, and the band had existed for almost a decade."

(Sonnichsen, Tyler. Capitals of Punk: DC, Paris, and Circulation in the Urban Underground. Singapore: Palgrave Macmillan, 2019. p. 120)
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Or the band was just a fan of Marillion.

[Count Lucanor]

To me, The Good the Bad and The Ugly is that score. When I hear it I see that fantastic scene in which the film spends about 3 weeks (or so it seems) just cutting between close ups of Clint Eastwood's, Lee Van Cleef's and Eli Wallach's eyes.

Cinematic gold. Sergio Leone was masterful at such scenes, just pure images and sounds building up. If you've seen the intro to Once Upon a Time in the West with Charles Bronson ("you brought two too many") you know what I mean. Tarantino craves for such talent.

[Steve3007]

If you've seen the intro to Once Upon a Time in the West with Charles Bronson ("you brought two too many") you know what I mean. Tarantino craves for such talent.

Yes! That is a classic intro. Waiting. Trapping the fly in the gun barrel. Creaking signs. etc. I guess one of Tarantino's most blatant homages to those Spaghetti Western scenes was the opening sequence of Inglorious Basterds.

[Count Lucanor]

Optical - Moving 808s

Completely unrelated musically, but talking about soundtracks, it reminded me of this:

[Count Lucanor]

And talking about minimalists and Norah Jones, something from her father with Glass:

[Steve3007]

I've always liked John Barry's theme to the Ipcress File.

[Sculptor1]

I've always liked John Barry's theme to the Ipcress File.

If we are doing the Movies I think the top music theme has to be "Harry Lime's theme" from The Third Man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oEsWi88Qv0

[Sy Borg]

This is more my era. I love early prog. Tarkus is a monster album.

King Crimson is another of the great old prog outfits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWmECLnMKGk

Excellent.
I found this the other day..
I'd not made much room for Genesis back in the day, as I was too busy with Pink F, Yes, Zep, Black Sabbath, ELP, ELO etc..
But check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0LLbkw ... BwkDSks6zS
Nad Sylvan out-sings Gabriel or Collins and make quite a spectacle of a superannuated guru.
Hackett is supreme as per..

A terrific prog tune. Trick of the Tail is my favourite Genesis album. I loved the way Phil sang on the album but I'll agree that Nad does a great job and sounds a tad more comfortable with the high notes than the others.

Prog was the classical music of our generation, our ears being conditioned to the sounds of jazz and rock, yet wanting more challenge, variation, imagination and intelligence than that of the average pop fare.

An example was the Dutch group Focus, who seamlessly fused rock and fusion with various classical genres. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUZtI9LCgoM