GE Morton wrote: ↑April 10th, 2020, 12:50 pmAll sceptical empiricists agree with Hume's constant correlation claim.Belindi wrote: ↑April 9th, 2020, 3:13 pmYou're sounding like Hume.
I cannot remember what Idid write but I ought to have written all we know of causes are constant correlations. . . . Same as for simple causal chains, we never see a thing called a cause. All we can see are constant correlations.
There is an answer to his observations re: causation, but that is another thread.
The problem with your constant correlations is that they are not constant. You can only say that X is a cause of Y when Y always follows Y. If I touch a lighted match to a pile of dry tinder, it will always catch fire; we can say the lighted match was the cause of the fire. But there is no X from which crime always follows. There is not even an X from which crime usually follows. All you have is a somewhat higher frequency of crime among the less educated, less wealthy, etc. But educated, wealthy persons also commit crimes, and most poor, uneducated people don't. Hence those factors cannot be causes of crimes.
Cultures of criminality are caused by poor educations which either limit life choices, or are white collar crimes committed by the wealthy whose educations lacked the human breadth that would have cultivated ordinary human sympathy..Now, now. "Lacked human breath"? What is your evidence for that? That is clearly an ad hoc excuse for the many counterexamples to the "poor, uneducated" theory.
We need to stop thinking of criminal behaviors as somehow "special" and in need of special, causal explanations. They are atypical, but so are most other human behaviors. Some people learn to play the piano; most don't. Some people love skiiing; most don't. Some people work crossword puzzles; most don't. Some people rob banks or rape women; most don't. It makes no more sense to ask for the "causes" of bank-robbing than to ask for the causes of piano-playing.
Criminality, unlike playing the piano, is not a skill. Criminality is caused by the sort of world view that sets people apart in subcultures.Subcultures may become respectable when the members become powerful enough.A simple example, in the national news the day before yesterday, is of the house parties and street parties organised despite national lock down which the majority observe.The local police who had to deal with these people explained they were people who had "chaotic lifestyles". Chaotic lifestyles have causes and the illicit assemblies are evidence of their cultural organisation.
At the affluent end of the social scale we saw how a very rich man hired a private jet and helicopters to take a large house party from England the South of France, and how the aeroplane and its passengers was denied landing rights by French police and had to return to England.
You may call these people simply bad people and that's an end to it. However nothing is uncaused and the only possible explanation for such blatant antisocial behaviour is stupidity at least partly caused by ignorance. All people are selfish however people who have learned discretion, stoicism, facts,empathy, and sound judgement agree to abide by good laws. That is the nature of society.
Now, now. "Lacked human breath"? What is your evidence for that? That is clearly an ad hoc excuse for the many counterexamples to the "poor, uneducated" theory.It's no excuse. I don't excuse criminals. I have worked as a teacher and I know there are educationists who have traced the reasons for failing at school, and the effects of politics on curriculums. Some politicians will not adequately finance education in humanities(how many scientists are taught history and philosophy of science?): other politicians take the longer view and want as many citizens as possible to be an informed electorate.