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[Frewah]

Dear members

I came here when I stumbled on the Ramanujan sum. It's very weird and it made me think. I came up with some weird questions like "Is there a twilight zone between truth and paradox". I suppose it's a weird question but I would like to know what other people think. It made more sense to be a member of this forum rather than some mathematical one where I fear I would be ridiculed. Have a look at the Riemann Zeta function someone would say I think. Anyway, there are interesting topics and I have given some my five cents of worth in hope that my thoughts won't be found wanting. I live in downtown Stockholm, the capital city of Sweden.

[Steve3007]

Welcome Frewah.

"Is there a twilight zone between truth and paradox"

Are you talking about contingent truths or analytic truths?

Examples of contingent statements are those that depend on an empirical observations to establish their truth or falsehood (e.g. "it is raining"). Whereas analytic statements are about defining the logical relationships between the words and symbols we're using (e.g. "all mortals will eventually die").

A logical paradox is a self-contradicting analytic statement (e.g. "this statement is false"). I'm not sure what a halfway position between that and a logically valid analytic statement would look like, or whether the concept is meaningful.

[Frewah]

Welcome Frewah.

"Is there a twilight zone between truth and paradox"

Are you talking about contingent truths or analytic truths?

Examples of contingent statements are those that depend on an empirical observations to establish their truth or falsehood (e.g. "it is raining"). Whereas analytic statements are about defining the logical relationships between the words and symbols we're using (e.g. "all mortals will eventually die").

A logical paradox is a self-contradicting analytic statement (e.g. "this statement is false"). I'm not sure what a halfway position between that and a logically valid analytic statement would look like, or whether the concept is meaningful.

Please excuse my belated reply. I wasn’t at the time. Then I doubt. When I think about it, a paradox could be defined as being a statement that lies in the twilight zone between truth and false since it doesn’t belong to either one. What I ask for has to border truth ”twice” and that doesn’t really make sense. I guess I was taken away by the mathematical proof. Anyway, this is an interesting community where I hope I can contribute.

[Joseph47]

Hello,

I just discovered Philosophy Discussion Forums by an online search for philosophy discussion groups. I am not a professional philosopher, although I do have a B.A. in philosophy. My interests are religion/spirituality, philosophy, logic, mathematics, and languages. Within philosophy, my strongest interests revolve around the philosophy of religion, philosophy of mind, as well as strong philosophical interests in logic, mathematics, and physics.

[Cifrvel]

Hi to all, guys!
Awesome forum

[ThomasHobbes]

Dear members

I came here when I stumbled on the Ramanujan sum. It's very weird and it made me think. I came up with some weird questions like "Is there a twilight zone between truth and paradox".

You might want to consult The Cloud of Unknowing or other books on mysticism. Not sure your question is philosophy. Heavy use of stringled metaphors tend to cloud the issue, not give clarity.

Stockholm, the capital city of Sweden.

Beware of being taken hostage here, lest a syndrome develops

[ThomasHobbes]

LOL stringled = strangled

[Steve3007]

LOL stringled = strangled

I quite like the idea of a stringled metaphor. It could be defined as a metaphor that appears to be as obscure as string theory.

[Frewah]

Dear members

I came here when I stumbled on the Ramanujan sum. It's very weird and it made me think. I came up with some weird questions like "Is there a twilight zone between truth and paradox".

You might want to consult The Cloud of Unknowing or other books on mysticism. Not sure your question is philosophy. Heavy use of stringled metaphors tend to cloud the issue, not give clarity.

Stockholm, the capital city of Sweden.

Beware of being taken hostage here, lest a syndrome develops

Thank you. I will have a look at that book. And I remember the events that led to the infanmous syndrome, a bank robbery that went wrong. Stockholm used to be a very sage place. It still is if you fear being mugged. I remember back in the late 70’s when I went to a school in the suburbs. Our prime minister at the time, Torbjörn Fälldin, had a farm at the end of the commuter line. He went with it and I sat next to him on two occasions. People were very polite and didn’t bother him in any way. Later, Olof Palme, was shot dead. He was a very controversial person. He was supposed to have a body guard at the time but he had declined. In 2010 there was an isis supporter who wanted to detonate a home made bomb among the pedestrians. It didn’t so he went in on a street with no pedestrians to check his bomb. There, it went off and killed the guy but no other person.

[ThomasHobbes]

You might want to consult The Cloud of Unknowing or other books on mysticism. Not sure your question is philosophy. Heavy use of stringled metaphors tend to cloud the issue, not give clarity.


Beware of being taken hostage here, lest a syndrome develops

Thank you. I will have a look at that book. And I remember the events that led to the infanmous syndrome, a bank robbery that went wrong. Stockholm used to be a very sage place. It still is if you fear being mugged. I remember back in the late 70’s when I went to a school in the suburbs. Our prime minister at the time, Torbjörn Fälldin, had a farm at the end of the commuter line. He went with it and I sat next to him on two occasions. People were very polite and didn’t bother him in any way. Later, Olof Palme, was shot dead. He was a very controversial person. He was supposed to have a body guard at the time but he had declined. In 2010 there was an isis supporter who wanted to detonate a home made bomb among the pedestrians. It didn’t so he went in on a street with no pedestrians to check his bomb. There, it went off and killed the guy but no other person.

Do you have humour in Stockholm, such as irony?

PS don't read that book.