Eduk wrote: ↑January 4th, 2018, 1:03 pm
How, you ask, do beliefs affect actions?
Let me point to human history;
No I was asking you specifically how your beliefs effect your actions.
Is this an attempt akin to the old; "if it were your children, you would think differently!"?
We need to get personal? That is not philosophy, it would be psychology.
Anyway, I'll humor you and see where you are going with this personal stuff.
You already, erroneously, assumed that I host 'beliefs'.
I do not.
(And, no, I do not 'believe' that, I 'observe' that.)
And not anything, ever, 'affects' my actions.
Believing the illusion of 'causality' and 'control' is akin to 'believing' that shouting at the sun will affect it in some manner.
I am interested in your take of yourself, not so much your take on others (not saying that that is irrelevant it's just not the question I was asking).
The egoic 'self' is as empty as all such illusions. That's my take on the 'self'. A mirror, at best.
"Perhaps it is the curvature of space that, like a funhouse mirror distorting our own reflection, we imagine strangers." - Mythopoeicon
All that is available to 'have a take on', is Self!
If you are referring to the egoic 'self' of the imagination, that is for you to answer. I am, to you, however you perceive me.
'Self!' is ALL inclusive.
Definitions are limitations.
For example I only believe something if it would be reasonable to do so.
How self-serving!
Everyone hosting 'beliefs' would use the same justification!
The greater the infection, the greater the dissolution of cognitive and intellectual function. Self-defense/self-serving.
The infection, parasite-like attached to your ego, your very self-identity, has the perfect self-defense system; you!
When a 'belief' feels threatened, YOU feel threatened, and will commit any atrocity to alleviate the perceived threat (depending on the severity of the infection, of course, but all on the scale). Many, many have been killed in the name of 'defending' people's belief infections, no matter the strain; God, money, rocks...
So therefore logically when you say it is common to perceive future moments I immediately check with my prior knowledge that there has been no verified instances of such an event.
On the contrary, there are many verified instances!
Your lack of research is a fine excuse for ignorance and summary rejection.
Actual, here and now thought burns more calories!
Further, I would hypothesize that all healthy human beings have seen 'the future', perhaps a moment here and there, but we all do it.
For you to deny is... disingenuous, to say the least.
Were it true, you'd be about the only one. Highly improbable.
I also question the mechanism as I can comprehend how my eyes can see in the present but know of no time travelling mechanism that would allow them to see in the future.
Forgetting the question of what, exactly, is doing the 'seeing', I will point out, however, that every moment of Universal existence is perceived Here! Now! We do not perceive the 'future' that exists nowhere other than in our thoughts/ego, all that can ever be perceived, is done so in the Here! Now! Moment!
All of them!
I also think of things like cause and effect which has, to this point, never been contradicted.
Wrong.
'Cause' and 'effect' (causality/creation) is a crude and obsolete way to say; two mutually arising opposite Perspectives of the same One Event!
For example if two thousand years ago someone had written down some QM equation but then had had no idea what to do with it and it was buried in some library for two thousand years and then randomly discovered, that would at least be something. But to my knowledge nothing remotely like that has ever happened.
Again, time for your Knowledge to receive critical update! *__-
If you were at all conversant with the Enlightened philosophers Laotse and Chuangtse, all those millennia ago, you would see that QM is finally catching up with what they already knew intuitively. And is all there to read for yourself. But you'd have to know something of QM so you'd be able to recognize the parallels!
That means homework! *__-
"Quantum mechanics comes on as so off the wall that only a mystical state of mind can even begin to probe it's mysteries!" - Richard Feynman and Chuangtse