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[DarwinX]

I have come up with a solution to this century old problem. For the last 100 years scientists have been busting their brains trying to unite gravity with light and matter into one formula. They haven't been able to achieve anything much in this respect because they have made one fundamental error. The main error is that science has created a forbidden zone which is known as 'aether mechanics'. It was decided by Einstein and others that aether is non-existent and they had some primitive experiments to prove it, so that was that, into the rubbish bin go the aether. Any scientist who wishes to investigate aether will be shunned by the scientific community because it is thought to be a redundant and unfashionable subject which has absolutely no prospects of yielding anything productive. Unfortunately, aether is really the only means by which all the elements of the universe can be connected in any meaningful way. I recognised this many years ago and have being trying to figure out how the jigsaw puzzle fits together ever since. I had a recent break-through when I realized that everything in the universe spins. I suspected that the spinning nature of the universe had something to do with the solution to this puzzle. Then, I had a brainstorm of an idea, which involves spin itself, as being the creator of matter. When I thought of this, all the pieces of the puzzle quickly came together. Now, light, gravity and matter were all related in a way that had never been thought of previously. I had found the missing link, aether and spin create matter.

Now light can be explained in terms of both a wave and a particle. As light travels through the aether it spins the aether which temporarily creates particles as it goes. This explains the duality of light. We can now dispense with all those illogical concepts that we have had to endure for the last 100 years. Out goes photons; gravity as a pulling force; magnetic and gravity fields don't exist, quantum mechanics is no more, bye, bye - all into the rubbish bin they go!

Now - the universe is once again a logical place where magical forces have no place.

[Eckhart Aurelius Hughes]

Providing an explanation without using the scientific method or a similar empirically based, testable methodology is the realm of religion. The above is basically a religious exercise.

If it was scientific, it would make testable predictions and thus be testable with experiments. The experiments would then either disprove it or validate it.

[Sy Borg]

Is the aether any different to space being a vast sea of quantum particles?

[DarwinX]

Is the aether any different to space being a vast sea of quantum particles?

Mainstream physicists are too embarrassed to say the word aether. They have made up a whole bag of alternative words which says aether without having to say the actual word 'aether'. Aether is a dirty word in physics and it must be avoided at all costs. Alternative words that can be used are - - quantum particles, Higg's boson, virtual photons, space-time continuum, dark matter, quantum space, dark energy, Plank's constant, electron neutrino, muon neutrino and last but not least the tau neutrino.

[Harbal]

Mainstream physicists are too embarrassed to say the word aether.

Yet you don't seem to be embarrassed about anything you say. It certainly is a topsy turvy world.

[Atreyu]

I agree with Scott.

The hypothesis you have proposed seems to be testable.

[TimBandTech]

When I was younger I had a similar intuition: that rotation was somehow key to physics and to a new physics theory. Still you've not extended beyond that sliver of a thought. Well maybe there is something to be exposed here about rotations or spins that is of importance. Rather than considering local spin I think it is worthwhile to consider rotation of a more universal form; rotation of the universe or of a galaxy. Because the matter about us is similarly accelerated there is no ability to detect such rotations locally. This is likewise true of the Earth's rotation. So just how violent could such rotational forces be? While we are used to thinking in stable terms we may as well consider that if we exist in a shaker like the little glass globe with a winter scene in it with snow flakes in a liquid... would we feel a thing when that globe is shaken? I believe the answer is no. I've drifted a little bit away from rotation and into translation here, but then the math of the matter is exposed by bridging there, for rotation does in fact involve translation, though the two are often treated as orthogonal qualities.

Entering the mathematical realm, which the terms are obviously sending us into, it would be meaningful to consider the dimensional puzzle as well. For instance, while wee humans think that we understand rotation in three dimensional space or ordinary space I continue to be amazed at the gyroscopic momentum of a rotating wheel; that rotations do not superpose; that rotation in a 4D or higher space could carry implications on our existence.

I do not accept the modern physical interpretation of electron spin as a discrete quality. It is possible to construct a continuous form which carries a discrete interpretation that would better resolve the puzzle. This points to the invalidity of quantum computing based on electron spin. Spin purity of electron beams is around 75% the last time I checked, with some claims near 80%. The Stern-Gerlach results were not discrete; they were blurred and continuous and were forced to a more discrete form by altering the aperture in the experiment. This could send one back to the spectroscopic results of atoms. This is the source of the discrete supposition. Perhaps too many qualities have been attributed to the atoms themselves and not enough to spacetime. This willingness to step back generations in physics will have to be taken up by a next generation. This means putting an end to the enforced mimicry of such philosophical contradictions as particle wave duality. This means physicists confessing that they've gotten some of the fundamentals wrong. In the absence of such an opening works which go back to the true openings will be rejected, and so modern physics will be accused of the same shortcomings as religion did about the time of Galileo. The shortcomings will be proven not to be of religion or science, but of wee humans. When it comes to truth or mimicry it is clear that mimicry rules our days. We pursue the truth in the face of such a challenge and those who step too far get squashed. Unfortunately I like squash.

[PeLeLe]

In a similar vein, hypothesising to myself...

We live in an ether or matrix of energy. This energy vibrates at different frequencies. Some frequencies create audible sound. Others create visible light. Lower, infrared. Higher, ultra violet. Higher still, matter. And various forms of matter have different frequencies.
So, if you fire an electron from an electron gun, it doesn't literally fire an electron, but creates a wave - ie. literally it is an energy gun, firing a certain energy. Hence, the electron is really a manifestation of the energy. i.e. Particles are waves, just a manifestation of the ether at a certain vibration. Likewise, if you fire a Winchester rifle, you're just firing off lots of different frequencies of waves - sound, light, matter, all waves.
The photoelectric effect of lines on a board behind two slits through which an electron is fired would thus occur because it does not matter whether the 'electron' is 'fired' at the peak or trough of the wave.
So, what is gravity? Thicker and thicker matter presumably has higher and higher vibration. Perhaps high vibrating waves tend to absorb high vibrating waves, so matter tends towards matter. We know denser material tends to absorb waves. Hence gravity. Water is denser than air. It is easy to make noise in air, but when that wave hits water, the water absorbs it. The water and the air are at very different vibrations. I guess the sound in water propagates into the air, but because of the different medium, it changes frequency, so is no longer audible.
So, what is time? Time is evidently not independent of matter. Waves travel more easily in dense matter, yet are also absorbed more easily. Perhaps the vibration is time? Hence, in denser material, time goes faster. On earth, there are more waves than in space (hence gravity), hence a clock (or body) would be more infused with waves, and hence denser. Hence the clock would run a bit faster than if in space.
What about gravity in space? 'Space' also contains this 'ether' or 'matrix', but at a vibration that doesn't cause many particles. Hence waves still penetrate. Hence gravity still acts, as the noise of waves from a planet, hence those waves absorb other waves. Hence gravity in 'space'.

[PeLeLe]

Sorry, obviously the Winchester gun doesn't emit light waves - except for the small amount in the blast.